Adding to
ATF - Pistol Brace -
https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461228#msg1461228Related to
efforts to abolish/eliminate ATF as an agency -
https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1460527#msg1460527And now push for
Repeal the NFA -
https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1461290#msg1461290Saga continues ...
Does the ATF Really Know What They Want to Do With Pistol Braces? - You may recall a previous video that we did <
https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1460989#msg1460989 > that explained that despite ATF's Pistol Brace Rule getting its teeth kicked in at about every court humanly possible, the ATF seemed to think that they could still enforce it. But then the Gun Owners' of America sent a letter to ATF immediately demanding answers. Well, it appears that the ATF has responded and I get while some want to claim victory in the response, we will show you that the ATF did not really back off on this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdNg_lnA414- Followup ... [GOA member] decided to submit a pistol [CZ Scorpian] with an attached stabilizing brace to ATF for predetermination and was told that absolutely positively was an SBR and therefore governed by the NFA
- That had a lot of us wondering ... "We all thought ... pistol brace Rule ... was dead"
- Well, that's what I thought too but apparently the ATF didn't think so
- That prompted pretty swift action by ... Gun Owners of America and they have now received a letter in response that it appears that ATF for the most part is backing off that position
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So let's talk about "Does the ATF really know what they want to do with pistol braces?" - We did this video over the weekend and it talked about how ... pistol brace Rule had been absolutely positively thrown out on its ass -
https://armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=70249.msg1460989#msg1460989- What they were claiming is, "No we're just interpreting the federal definition of short barrel rifle to include all firearms with attached stabilizing braces"
- But of course, what was the premise behind the pistol brace Rule?
- Well, it was exactly that and court after court after court ... for all intents and purposes ... [The Rule] is dead and it's been nationally enjoined for months now
- I thought I would never ever have to cover that freaking Rule again but here I am doing video number two in a week about it
- As I said in the previous video, Erich Pratt, Executive Vice President over at Gun Owners of America as well as everyone over at GOA had a complete conniption fit and sent a very terse letter to the ATF saying, "Hey you know, what's up with this 'Your rule has been shot down in this case, in this case, in this case, in this case' ... What exactly is going on here?"
- GOA has received a letter back and I'm going to read that letter because it appears that the ATF is backing off a little bit ... What it also appears is the ATF shockingly has no clue what they're talking about
- The letter received by GOA reads as follows, "
Mr Pratt ... ATF agree that the statement 'Federal Law requires a pistol with an attached stabilizing brace or stock to be registered as a short barrel rifle' is overbroad."
- Okay, so that is really about the only backing off that we're going to get
- Now we're going to get a lot of hem and haw and explanation from the ATF which goes, "...
while the appeal is pending ATF is complying with the court's order" ... right, they are actually complying with the court's order
- What else did the ATF have to say? "
The District Court's order does not prohibit enforcement of the National Firearms Act, NFA or the Gun Control Act, GCA ... ATF remains responsible for enforcement of statutory provisions pertaining to 'a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length' under the NFA and 'short barrel rifle' under the GCA. The statutory definition of rifle under the NFA and GCA includes in relevant part ... 'designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder' A firearm designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder
that meets the statutory definition of short barrel rifle contained in the NFA must be made and transferred in accordance with the statutory requirements of the NFA"
- So I get that the folks over at GOA has said, "Hey listen, the ATF has really backed off on this and they certainly are watering down their statement"; but then you read that paragraph and they're saying, "Well no, we're still going to interpret the statute this way and we still intend on enforcing it that way."
- Here's what else ... ATF had to say the Firearms Industry Program Branch diligently strives to analyze and provide the most current and accurate information and or guidance to any inquiry made with our Branch
- So did the ATF back off of their position? A little
- They basically said, "Well yeah, we're not relying on the Rule whatsoever" but they still double down on their same statement that, Hey listen, we still interpret the statute that way. We're still going to enforce the statute that way. And if we believe that this is a rifle with a barrel less than 16 inches which is designed to be fired from the shoulder, we are going to act as though that should be regulated under the National Firearms Act
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So what is my recommendation?- My recommendation is everybody just hang on until January 20th because I think there may be a much different attitude coming from the ATF moving forward.
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... ATF raids a family's house due to incorrect information (felon in possession of firearm) on a search warrant for a law abiding citizen.
This is Why All of You Want to Abolish the ATF - Just when you thought you could not hate the ATF anymore than you currenlty do, they once again sink to new lows. Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discuses the case of a Maryland man, who had his home raided, at gun point, with his spouse and children present and for what? Well that appears to be the problem, because after this violent raid, which cuased thousands of dollars of damage to their home, the only evidence taken, a cell phone -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxPVLpZkvYQAnd there's more ...
AWR Hawkins: Push to Abolish ATF Is Back in Style, And It's Good for the Second Amendment - Whether the ATF is eventually abolished, the increase in efforts to eradicate it benefits freedom and the Second Amendment -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKo8R2Ytb8
Rep. Eric Burlison Criticizes ATF, Advocates for NFA Repeal -
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/eric-burlison-atf-nfa/2025/01/13/id/1194923/Rep. Eric Burlison, R-Mo., has intensified efforts to dismantle the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and repeal the National Firearms Act (NFA), criticizing both infringing on Americans' constitutional rights by misusing taxpayer dollars
- "The ATF uses your tax dollars to violate your constitutional rights. Does that sound like freedom to you?"
- His comments are part of a broader campaign to repeal the National Firearms Act (NFA), a federal law enacted in 1934 to regulate certain Class III firearms and accessories, including suppressors, short-barreled shotguns and rifles, and machine guns
- Burlison and other critics argue that the NFA imposes unnecessary restrictions on law-abiding gun owners
- Under the NFA, individuals seeking to purchase regulated items must undergo a rigorous process ... including ... fingerprints, photographs ... $200 federal tax ... background check, and registering the firearm or accessory with the ATF
- These requirements represent undue burdens on exercising Second Amendment rights
- "Gun control has always been about control, not safety. The NFA is a prime example of this, and we're working to take it down."
