Easily Predictable (and predicted) Consequences of Gay "Marriage"

[Ron]

Who celebrates these bold child drag queens elevating them to national attention?

The LGBT community and its supporters primarily.

Folks who are running interference for this type of child abuse should be ashamed of themselves.

This is tribalism. They will not police or condemn anyone in their tribe.

[MechAg94]

Who celebrates these bold child drag queens elevating them to national attention?

The LGBT community and its supporters primarily.

Folks who are running interference for this type of child abuse should be ashamed of themselves.

This is tribalism. They will not police or condemn anyone in their tribe.

And the members of the gay community that don't support that stuff are just the "flyover country" of the gay community.

[lupinus]

Enjoy having a boogyman and wondering why you're increasingly disregarded as out of step and out of touch with reality.

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[Ron]

Enjoy having a boogyman and wondering why you're increasingly disregarded as out of step and out of touch with reality.

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I hope you don’t enjoy your life of enabling child abuse by refusing to see reality.

[lupinus]

I hope you don’t enjoy your life of enabling child abuse by refusing to see reality.

Actually yes, I do very much enjoy my life.

Part of my life is not, however, falling into traps of demonizing entire groups of people who I largely know nothing about so I have a boogyman to point my finger at. Enjoy doing the equivalent of considering those you don't like a racist bigot if it makes you feel fulfilled. Better yet, I hope coming off as a model example of such gives you righteous warm fuzzies feelings on the inside.

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[Ron]

Actually yes, I do very much enjoy my life.

Part of my life is not, however, falling into traps of demonizing entire groups of people who I largely know nothing about so I have a boogyman to point my finger at. Enjoy doing the equivalent of considering those you don't like a racist bigot if it makes you feel fulfilled. Better yet, I hope coming off as a model example of such gives you righteous warm fuzzies feelings on the inside.

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The main problem isn’t really the LGBT community but the nice non judgmental folks who don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings by pointing out the obvious.

Like, celebrating 9 year old drag queens is evil.

Using public education institutions to groom children for homosexuality and transgenderism is evil.

The LGBT community better reign in their self appointed leaders from their overreach. People are waking up and a lot of them aren’t nice people like we are here at APS.

[Pb]

No-one is denying pedophilia exists. No-one is denying some homosexuals are pedophiles. I don't think I've ever seen anything rational that tied pedophilia to anything other than a random distribution of the population, other than being mostly a defect of men.

Ok, read the study here.

A larger proportion of homosexuals are pedophiles, compared to heterosexuals:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

[cordex]

You've got it rather backwards in terms of percentages. Republican gay folks may be the exception. Whereas those that are cool with pedophilia are very much the exception.

I don't disagree.

What it does NOT do is have any ties to left-leaning anything. Pedophilia is not a political orientation.

Is homosexuality a political orientation?

If you think pedophilia is related to political orientation or an attempt to 'normalize' it I don't have anything constructive to say because that's...probably the most hyperbolic opinion I've ever heard in my life. That's sillier than calling Republicans actual Nazis.

You may be misreading me.  I'm not saying that Democrats like pedophiles.  Most Democrats (like most Republicans) are pretty centrist, just voting for their tribe despite the crap their leadership pulls.  I'm saying that the principles espoused by leftists (postmodernists, intersectionalists, etc.) do not lend themselves to attacking pedophilia, and indeed do lend themselves to defending it.

What worries me most is that the left - a necessary component to reign in the excesses of the right - has more or less run out of excesses to reign in, but has not slowed its demand for change.

That's a scary world to live in, where someone's political counterparts want to molest little kids. It's a level of demonetization I didn't think existed. TIL.

Nope, not what I'm saying.

[Hawkmoon]

We interrupt this program to bring you a word from the language Nazi:

What worries me most is that the left - a necessary component to reign in the excesses of the right - has more or less run out of excesses to reign in, but has not slowed its demand for change.

Definition of reign

1 a : royal authority : sovereignty

    under the reign of the Stuart kings

b : the dominion, sway, or influence of one resembling a monarch

    the reign of the Puritan ministers

2 : the time during which someone (such as a sovereign) reigns

Definition of rein

1 : a strap fastened to a bit by which a rider or driver controls an animal —usually used in plural
2 a : a restraining influence : check

    kept a tight rein on the proceedings

b : controlling or guiding power —usually used in plural

    the reins of government

3 : opportunity for unhampered activity or use

    gave full rein to her imagination

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

[lupinus]

Ok, read the study here.

A larger proportion of homosexuals are pedophiles, compared to heterosexuals:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

Ok, read this study here.

In 82% of cases the abuser was a heterosexual male partner of an adult relative. With the likelihood of the pedophile being homosexual in line with the rate of homosexuals in general.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8008535/

In short, ones orientation towards adult partners, if their is any, has little to do with their victims. It generally has much more to do with availability. IE, Clergy didn't largely molest boys because they were gay, they largely molested boys because they were the children they were most likely to have opportunity to molest, with other reasons such as deniability and the like. The attraction for a pedo is almost exclusively to a pre pubescent child with no ties to that child's gender.

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[freakazoid]

The fact still remains that the gay community wants nothing more to do with child predators than your average person does.

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But the SJW community does.

\What it does NOT do is have any ties to left-leaning anything. Pedophilia is not a political orientation.

If you think pedophilia is related to political orientation or an attempt to 'normalize' it I don't have anything constructive to say because that's...probably the most hyperbolic opinion I've ever heard in my life. That's sillier than calling Republicans actual Nazis.

That's a scary world to live in, where someone's political counterparts want to molest little kids. It's a level of demonetization I didn't think existed. TIL.

Except guess which side is the ones ok with it. Guess which side is pushing things like "gender fluid". Guess which side has the ever expanding acronym of acceptance.

Here's a fun time for kids, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOFkVZQ8etE
Meet Desmond, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w5X4aD6mo8
Meet Lactatia, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCXxUxI-WE

[Hawkmoon]

Meet Lactatia, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdCXxUxI-WE

One look at "Lactatia's" mother pretty much explains it all.

[Hawkmoon]

Well, well, well ...

https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/warren-county/parents-of-three-transgender-teens-sue-warren-county-judge-to-allow-name-change

Look what we have here. A judge declined to allow a minor female to legally adopt a male name because he (the judge) wasn't convinced the minor was mature enough to make that decision (yet) -- so the kid's parents are suing the judge. Along with the parents of two other alleged "transgender" minors who haven't even had their hearings yet.

The pressure is building. Conform or be destroyed.

[Firethorn]

The pressure is building. Conform or be destroyed.

If a lawsuit, in a country where crazy lawsuits without realistic basis are a common thing, is enough to constitute "pressure" in your world, then I feel sad for you.

You might as well be complaining about air pressure in this case.  Call me back when the parents actually win their cases.  Call me back when legislation is being passed, not just put forward by that one crazy senator.  Etc...

Treating "the left" like some monolithic evil force is incorrect.  It consists of people, just like on the right, just with different views.  Often views that aren't all that different either.  They start with different base assumptions in many cases.

As has been pointed out, they have their fringe, the right has theirs, etc...  The fringe being fringe is a thing. 

Select people have been "trying" to "legitimize" pedophilia for centuries.  The acceptance of gays has risen and fallen several times during that.  Acceptance of pedophilia is a far different matter than acceptance of gays.

It's just that as Gays won their acceptance, their cries for acceptance have died down, and now only more fringe are heard.

[MechAg94]

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/08/04/david-hoggs-vision-each-member-of-congress-will-have-a-young-person/

 

[Ron]

If a lawsuit, in a country where crazy lawsuits without realistic basis are a common thing, is enough to constitute "pressure" in your world, then I feel sad for you.

You might as well be complaining about air pressure in this case.  Call me back when the parents actually win their cases.  Call me back when legislation is being passed, not just put forward by that one crazy senator.  Etc...

Treating "the left" like some monolithic evil force is incorrect.  It consists of people, just like on the right, just with different views.  Often views that aren't all that different either.  They start with different base assumptions in many cases.

As has been pointed out, they have their fringe, the right has theirs, etc...  The fringe being fringe is a thing.  

Select people have been "trying" to "legitimize" pedophilia for centuries.  The acceptance of gays has risen and fallen several times during that.  Acceptance of pedophilia is a far different matter than acceptance of gays.

It's just that as Gays won their acceptance, their cries for acceptance have died down, and now only more fringe are heard.

The ratchet only seems to click to the left or if you like, Cthulhu may swim slowly, but he only swims to the left.

While I appreciate your position and the tone of your post I disagree with you. It will not stop, to the left they must push.

It’s not monolithic evil but the ordinary every day banal evil that compromises or doesn’t speak up due to a whole host of reasons.

[gunsmith]

"If the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world",

Harry Hay prominent socialist in 1982.
he practically invented the gay rights movement, as well as the "left wing" as we know it today.

[Strings]

In my experience, the gender of the victim in a child sexual abuse case has more to do with boys being less likely to say anything than girls, more than the perp being attracted to males.

[freakazoid]

In my experience, the gender of the victim in a child sexual abuse case has more to do with boys being less likely to say anything than girls, more than the perp being attracted to males.

So the girls are more likely to be aggressive in saying no?

[MillCreek]

All of you are completely ignoring the pony in the room:

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/animals/oklahoma-pony-case-629403

[Hawkmoon]

All of you are completely ignoring the pony in the room:

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/animals/oklahoma-pony-case-629403

It's not in the room, it's out in the field.

[/Monty Python accent]

[Strings]

So the girls are more likely to be aggressive in saying no?

No, but they are more likely to speak up. It's changing, but it used to be that boys who were molested were afraid that they had been "turned gay

[lupinus]

No, but they are more likely to speak up. It's changing, but it used to be that boys who were molested were afraid that they had been "turned gay

There's also, likewise fading, the better cover-up because why on Earth would a heterosexual male adult molest a boy.

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[cordex]

In my experience, the gender of the victim in a child sexual abuse case has more to do with boys being less likely to say anything than girls, more than the perp being attracted to males.

Wouldn’t that contribute to underreporting of male victim stats?

[Ron]

They weren’t being victimized.

They showed curiosity and were being mentored, repeatedly.