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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on January 26, 2023, 08:23:34 AM
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I caught this story this morning. Apparently a (non-shooting) death of a subject who was chased down by cops. There seem to be racial overtones, though it appears all the cops were black too. The article tells me absolutely nothing besides the warning of the usual violence.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tyre-nichols-video-police-chief-warns-memphis-violently-body-cam-footage-release
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. There seem to be racial overtones, though it appears all the cops were black too. The article tells me absolutely nothing besides the warning of the usual violence.
The officers were all black.
The police chief is black.
The mayor is bl.... err white., Got our racist connection.
Possibility he died from drugs he swallowed to hide them?
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Two personnel from the Memphis Fire Department have also been fired, and an internal investigation has been launched.
Article doesn't why they were fired
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Don't look good for the officers involved
Memphis man Tyre Nichols, who died three days after a 'violent' traffic stop, suffered 'extensive bleeding caused by a severe beating,' according to preliminary results of an autopsy commissioned by attorneys for his family.
Memphis Police Chief Cerelyn Davis said in an address on Wednesday that the incident showed a ‘disregard for basic human rights’ noting that police officers are under oath to ‘do the opposite’ of what took place in the video.
Way the article describes the video footage it sounds like a scared kid.
FedEx worker Tyre Nichols who died after a 'violent' traffic stop had 'extensive bleeding caused by a severe beating', autopsy reveals as police chief brands attack a 'disregard of basic human rights'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11679237/FedEx-worker-Tyre-Nichols-29-extensive-bleeding-caused-severe-beating-autopsy-reveals.html
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Was the kid gay or something? But just being a smartass can result in extralegal punishment, Terry said, adding "...I guess..."
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Those 5 officers were arrested today and charged with second-degree murder along with other charges.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tyre-nichols-case-5-former-memphis-police-officers-charged-second-degree-murder
The video will be released soon and it sounds like it will be ugly.
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Was the kid gay or something? But just being a smartass can result in extralegal punishment, Terry said, adding "...I guess..."
He took them on a foot chase. That might do it as well. On the other hand, some past videos I have seen, the suspects can sometimes put up a hell of a fight to prevent themselves being handcuffed.
Authorities transported Nichols to St. Francis Hospital in critical condition, and he died three days later on Jan. 10, according to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
In a joint statement issued Tuesday night from lawyers Ben Crump and Antonio Romanucci, they said following an independent autopsy on Nichols’ body carried out by a "highly regarded, nationally renowned forensic pathologist," preliminary findings indicated that "Tyre suffered extensive bleeding caused by a severe beating."
He survived for 3 days. I assume the video will show something and I assume the hospital will have records of the condition he was in when he showed up.
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....and Ben Crump shows up again
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....and Ben Crump shows up again
He smells money
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Time for the cognitive disconnect.
Five black men jailed.
One black man killed by the police
Justice for Tyre!
Free the Memphis five!
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Just because the officers were black doesn’t mean they aren’t violent ultra maga white supremisists promoting institutional systemic racism.
C’mon man.
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Just because the officers were black doesn’t mean they aren’t violent ultra maga white supremisists promoting institutional systemic racism.
C’mon man.
They all probably self-identify as white.
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George Floyd II
Riots and looting in liberal urban centers across the country.
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Sounded a little like pack behavior.
I recall the case of Abner Louima in New York in 1966. (At that point in time I was in Colorado but still paid attention to New York happenings, mainly through one of my nieces.)
Tough reading, get ready with a waterproof wastebasket:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima
That case seemed to have certain similarities except Mr. Louima survived. I wonder what evidence will turn up here.
Terry, 230RN
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It’s inevitable. BLM and Antifa look for excuses to destroy communities, whether it’s one of their own committing a crime or not.
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It’s inevitable. BLM and Antifa look for excuses to destroy and extort communities, whether it’s one of their own committing a crime or not.
FIFY
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Video is suppose to be released today.
Tonight could get interesting.
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The left consistently has canned stories ready to go - hence, the guy was killed by cops who were supporting the white nationalists...
And... It doesn't matter that the cops were black, because a LOT of the folks will completely ignore that, because there has as of late been more and more tendency to stick with the initial story, regardless of what is revealed.
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Free the Memphis 5!
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I saw a snippet of the Memphis police chief saying that the video to be released is worse than the Rodney King video.
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I saw a snippet of the Memphis police chief saying that the video to be released is worse than the Rodney King video.
Which could mean we'll see something worse than the Reginald Denny video.
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America on edge: Protests are planned nationwide over Tyre Nichols bodycam video - as Georgia Gov. Kemp activates 1,000 National Guard troops, district cancels all after-school activities and security is ramped up at Capitol Hill
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11684537/Calls-calm-protests-planned-nationwide-Tyre-Nichols-bodycam-video.html
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Just because the officers were black doesn’t mean they aren’t violent ultra maga white supremisists promoting institutional systemic racism.
C’mon man.
Maybe its not so much a race issue as it is a police issue.
>t. Cptn. Obvious
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Ruh Roh
ATF warns gun dealers on "potential civil unrest"
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023/01/27/atf-warns-gun-dealers-on-potential-civil-unrest-n66695
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Just because the officers were black doesn’t mean they aren’t violent ultra maga white supremisists promoting institutional systemic racism.
C’mon man.
No matter the police officer's race they're doing the white man's bidding.
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ATF warns gun dealers on "potential civil unrest"
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2023/01/27/atf-warns-gun-dealers-on-potential-civil-unrest-n66695
I may upgrade my usual carry piece from a J-frame for the next couple of days.
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There goes the price of plywood again.
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Why are they releasing this footage at 1900 local on a Friday night? That would seem to guarantee a full weekend of riots. They couldn't do it Mon or Tue morning? Not that many of the rioters work, but it might have reduced the bussing in that's going to occur for a weekend riot.
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Why are they releasing this footage at 1900 local on a Friday night? That would seem to guarantee a full weekend of riots. They couldn't do it Mon or Tue morning? Not that many of the rioters work, but it might have reduced the bussing in that's going to occur for a weekend riot.
That's a rhetorical question, right?
:rofl:
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Might be that they will reduce the number of risk to employees of businesses that would be open if they released it during the work weak.
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Video is out.
I've only seen this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4DAQw-50-U
The audio didn't work for me, but maybe there isn't audio.
Frankly, the beating wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. I need to see other angles from the other officers.
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This channel will have all four videos as they get released. Two are out now.
https://www.youtube.com/@newschannel5
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My wife and I are watching a special report on NBC news right now. Two videos have been shown so far. We can see the handcuffed subject, who is not resisting, being kicked in the head and sustaining baton strikes.
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Memphis burning yet, or is that reserved for when the cops are white and the alleged offender is a POC?
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4 videos out. 3 body cams and 1 from a security camera. The security camera shows the cops beating the suspect while cuffed.
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https://youtu.be/fS77OwZFhOk?t=117
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This is the most damning video.
https://www.youtube.com/@newschannel5
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The security cam video showing them holding him up and beating the crap out of him is pretty damning. No justification for that.
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It's pretty bad indeed.
I wonder if the fact they are already fired and charged with murder will limit some of the rioting.
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Videos show more than 20 minutes pass before a stretcher arrives for Tyre Nichols
From CNN’s Jon Bonifield and Shawn Nottingham
Editor's note: This post contains graphic descriptions of violence.
Videos released by the Shelby County District Attorney’s office show the medical response to Tyre Nichols in the moments after his beating.
In a body camera video, a first responder briefly appears to render aid to Nichols but then leaves him unattended on the ground.
Nichols appears to attempt to push himself up to a sitting position a few minutes later while first responders stand around not aiding him.
One person can be heard saying, “it’s going to be awhile for an ambulance”.
The pole cam shows that 23 minutes pass from the time Nichols appears to be subdued and on his back on the ground before a stretcher arrives on scene. Two minutes later, an ambulance pulls into frame.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/tyre-nichols-memphis-news-1-27-23/index.html
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The security cam video showing them holding him up and beating the crap out of him is pretty damning. No justification for that.
Also saw at least one of them doing a full force kick while he was lying on the ground.
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Only report of trouble I've seen so far is some people blocking a HW in Memphis
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Crowd chanting "burn it down" and jumping on police cars in NYC
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Former cop reviews some of the worst Black On Black murders you have ever seen!
Tyre Nichols Police Breakdown
Donut Operator
https://www.youtube.com/live/qbmewKE0uOg
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Lots of photos
Actually not nearly as bad as many were expecting but today is a whole new day.
Tyre Nichols protester hurls firework at LAPD cruiser - while squad car is smashed up in NYC: Thousands of Antifa activists march on Memphis, Portland and Seattle amid call for violence
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11685421/Antifa-tells-protesters-BURN-braces-riots.html
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Lots of photos
Actually not nearly as bad as many were expecting but today is a whole day.
I'm watching some video interviews of actual peaceful protestors this morning, and there seems to be a theme about "this is not about race". So it appears you do in fact need white cops involved for protests to become violent.
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I'm watching some video interviews of actual peaceful protestors this morning, and there seems to be a theme about "this is not about race". So it appears you do in fact need white cops involved for protests to become violent.
ANTIFA is openly calling for violence
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ANTIFA is openly calling for violence
Yeah, well, they're communists. That's what they do. They'd call for an afternoon of rage if a Starbucks employee misspelled their name on a frappuccino.
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Yeah, well, they're communists. That's what they do. They'd call for an afternoon of rage if a Starbucks employee misspelled their name on a frappuccino.
Yes I know that. My point was they don't care if it's a race issue or not.
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So, what did the deceased do prior to the beat down?
Are black people going to burn down their own neighborhoods again, in an orgy of black-on-black violence, to protest this act of black-on-black violence?
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Yes I know that. My point was they don't care if it's a race issue or not.
Or that the officers responsible have been arrested and charged.
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So, what did the deceased do prior to the beat down?
Something new may have come out since but he was supposedly pulled over for reckless driving. Something the Chief of Police said he wasn't guilty of.
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So, what did the deceased do prior to the beat down?
Nothing he could have done would have him deserving what happened to him here. I am interested in exactly what he did do though, as I haven't yet run into an explanation of that, other than "traffic stop".
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A congressman speaks:
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2023/01/28/gen-z-is-in-the-house-maxwell-alejandro-frost-unleashed-a-tweet-that-was-so-bad-he-deleted-it/
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Watching the MSM local and network news this morning. It's sort of hard, watching how they present this over and over and over and the manner they present it, to try and not think the media is guilty of inciting to riot the way they presented this incident.
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Nothing he could have done would have him deserving what happened to him here. I am interested in exactly what he did do though, as I haven't yet run into an explanation of that, other than "traffic stop".
Intially pulled-over for reckless driving. The fight started there, but the driver was able to get loose and flee. The cops chased him down some blocks away and that is when the real violence started.
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Intially pulled-over for reckless driving. The fight started there, but the driver was able to get loose and flee. The cops chased him down some blocks away and that is when the real violence started.
At the first stop I saw one of the officers walk up to his car, open the door, and pulled him right out of the car while other officers had their gun drawn. It wasn't a friendly traffic stop by any means.
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Watching the MSM local and network news this morning. It's sort of hard, watching how they present this over and over and over and the manner they present it, to try and not think the media is guilty of inciting to riot the way they presented this incident.
I can't disagree with that. There is reporting the news and there is reveling in it. All the major outlets, not just the commie ones, are just replaying this nonstop.
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No Justice No Peace!
Meanwhile all 5 were charged with murder even before the videos were released.
What justice are they demanding that isn't already being done? Wonder if by justice they mean $$$$$$?
That was a rhetorical question.
Real question is how much $$$$ BLM and ANTIFA are demanding not to riot this time?
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Look at the eyes of reporters on the networks - despite their somber expressions, you can see they're happy to have a story featuring "another black man killed by police."
Some are - unsurprisingly - trying to spin the story to blame white supremacy even though the Memphis police chief and all five cops involved are also black. :facepalm:
They'll be positively giddy with delight if they get some violent riots fiery but mostly peaceful protests to cover.
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If murder wasn't illegal the kid would still be alive.
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Nothing he could have done would have him deserving what happened to him here.
Nothing is a pretty strong word. If he, had, say murdered or raped someone, I would say he would have deserved being beaten to death, weather or not it would be a good idea. Extrajudicial executions are rarely good ideas. For reckless driving, nope. That is just my opinion.
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ANTIFA is openly calling for violence
In other breaking news, water is wet, and the sun rises in the east.
Details at 11:00 ... stay tuned.
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Wow, I finally watched the video's - amazing that they've been getting away with this ( with all the cameras out there these days )
This beating was totally normal for these cops, it is only because Tyre died and the place the story got in the news cycle, that is has blown up like it has.
Very interesting case, I wonder what's in it for the usual suspects, will this limit or eliminate qualified immunity?
Will this lead to a federal police force?
BTW - remind me to stay far away from Memphis
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I'm also of the opinion that this wasn't a first time event for those cops. I also believe that at least a few of these fine upstanding officer's brother's in arms knew of their behavior and looked the other way because "thin blue line".
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Of course it's white supremacy
I need so many people to understand this regarding Tyre Nichols. Several of the police officers who murdered Freddie Gray were Black. The entire system of policing is based on white supremacist violence. We see people under the boot of oppression carry its water all the time. https://t.co/H11cuzHPxC
— Jemele Hill (@jemelehill) January 27, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/01/28/after-memphis-were-reminded-that-racism-is-what-policing-is/
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More of that
If you think the Memphis police officers had to be white in order to exhibit anti-Blackness, you need to take that AP African American Studies course Ron DeSantis just banned.
— Mondaire Jones (@MondaireJones) January 28, 2023
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/01/28/cnns-mondaire-jones-packs-lefty-narratives-about-memphis-cops-and-gov-desantis-into-a-single-tweet/
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And... Some folks are saying that they are bangers, and that this was gang-related...
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And... Some folks are saying that they are bangers, and that this was gang-related...
Intradasting.
Any more on that?
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No more info - the Vice Lords are active in Memphis, Chicago, etc., and may be starting to get into LE... Different gangs, different cities have had the same sort of stuff. I suspect that this time, the PR machine saw something happen, and just like what happens with a lot of stuff, they jumped on it without looking first, and by golly, they aren't going to change their story - these were _obviously_ white supremacist black cops...
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Saw speculation it had something to with gangs in the comment sections of the body cam videos on YT. With many police force relaxing hiring requirements and basically hiring anyone with a pulse lately it wouldn't surprise me one bit if various gangs have infiltrated those police forces. No doubt it was a problem before but I would bet in the last few years it has exploded. Memphis has basically been Gangville for decades so it may be worse there than many other places.
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More on the Memphis Police Chief
Cerelyn 'CJ' Davis was kicked out of the Atlanta Police Department in 2008 for her role in the botched investigation of sergeant Tonya Crane's husband Terrill Marion Crane - who later turned out to be guilty.
Two detectives on the case accused Davis - who was deputy chief at the time - of urging them not to dig into the claims against Crane after the unit received pictures of him with underage middle school girls.
Crane later pled guilty to one count of producing child pornography after the FBI took on the case - and blame then shifted on to Davis for taking a 'blind eye' on the child porn claims.
Despite her history as a careless investigator, Davis still became the first black female chief in Memphis in 2021 - one year after George Floyd was killed at the hands of Minneapolis police.
The FBI blasted Atlanta's police force as 'unforgiveable' at the time for allowing the child abuse - which involved at least 11 girls, some as young as middle school age - to go 'unchecked.'
Crane's wife, who was a sergeant working with Davis, also admitted to 'finding and burning' some of the child porn photographs her husband had taken of the victims.
A follow-up investigation by the city then placed the blame squarely on Davis. She was demoted from major to lieutenant before ultimately being fired from the force in Atlanta.
Maybe nothing to do with this current case but if true she does has a history of at least one major coverup
Memphis police chief tasked with investigating Tyre Nichols murder was fired from previous job with Atlanta PD over child porn scandal - as protest turns ugly in LA
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11688829/Memphis-police-chief-tasked-investigating-Tyre-Nichols-murder-fired-previous-job-Atlanta.html
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Gangs infiltrating police departments? Old news.
Over 2 decades ago it was known that Chicago street gangs were making a concerted long-term effort to infiltrate the Chicago Police Department. Gang members would recruit youngsters into the gang, but deliberately keep them "clean" with respect to crime and arrest records so when they got older, they could pass a background check and join CPD. Affirmative action hiring greased the skids to hire more of these YOCs (Youts of Color) and many eventually received a badge and a gun. Once on the job, they were in a position to help the gangs - often by just making sure that when something was going down in one part of the precinct, they made sure that their regular patrol route put them at the opposite side of their patrol area.
And of course pointing this out - or even asking about it - was bigoted racism.
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Gangs infiltrating police departments? Old news.
Over 2 decades ago it was known that Chicago street gangs were making a concerted long-term effort to infiltrate the Chicago Police Department. Gang members would recruit youngsters into the gang, but deliberately keep them "clean" with respect to crime and arrest records so when they got older, they could pass a background check and join CPD. Affirmative action hiring greased the skids to hire more of these YOCs (Youts of Color) and many eventually received a badge and a gun. Once on the job, they were in a position to help the gangs - often by just making sure that when something was going down in one part of the precinct, they made sure that their regular patrol route put them at the opposite side of their patrol area.
And of course pointing this out - or even asking about it - was bigoted racism.
Yeah but like I said above I bet it has exploded lately with many PDs following basically if you got a pulse you're hired policy now.
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Yeah but like I said above I bet it has exploded lately with many PDs following basically if you got a pulse you're hired policy now.
And something we don't talk about as much lately, but a whole lot of older/experienced cops were retiring or getting the hell out of the major cities once all the COVID stuff and riots started. We speculated then about what sort of police force would be left in the future.
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And something we don't talk about as much lately, but a whole lot of older/experienced cops were retiring or getting the hell out of the major cities once all the COVID stuff and riots started. We speculated then about what sort of police force would be left in the future.
They've been recruiting dumb cops for a long time, with court approval. (Note the date on the linked news story.)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
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And something we don't talk about as much lately, but a whole lot of older/experienced cops were retiring or getting the hell out of the major cities once all the COVID stuff and riots started. We speculated then about what sort of police force would be left in the future.
I know at least three who decided to get out because they didn't want to deal with all the BS now.
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They've been recruiting dumb cops for a long time, with court approval. (Note the date on the linked news story.)
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
Just to be clear, that is not some sort of standard across the US. I know for a fact that the town for which I am involved in police hiring does not have any sort of maximum score.
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Just to be clear, that is not some sort of standard across the US. I know for a fact that the town for which I am involved in police hiring does not have any sort of maximum score.
IMO, it depends on what sort of politicians are in your town maybe. I figure big cities will be the worst since more people with their own agendas and they can hide the hiring standards in the bureaucratic mess. Less chance that local citizens will be able to complain loud enough to make any difference.
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Nothing is a pretty strong word. If he, had, say murdered or raped someone, I would say he would have deserved being beaten to death, weather or not it would be a good idea. Extrajudicial executions are rarely good ideas. For reckless driving, nope. That is just my opinion.
Nothing is still the word I will use. Dan Bongino explains it better than I can.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1619591730432704512
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That is a good point. My first thought was they were just ticked off, but there may have been other reasons. I wasn't sure about it until I saw the video. I have seen a lot of videos where cops were prosecuted that "looked bad", but weren't really that bad. This was flat out terrible.
Maybe the reason he ran is he knew who was pulling him over and what they intended to do?
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That is a good point. My first thought was they were just ticked off, but there may have been other reasons. I wasn't sure about it until I saw the video. I have seen a lot of videos where cops were prosecuted that "looked bad", but weren't really that bad. This was flat out terrible.
Maybe the reason he ran is he knew who was pulling him over and what they intended to do?
That thought has crossed my mind as well. [tinfoil]
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Other than he worked at Fedex anyone heard any more about the deceased?
Fedex? Hmmm.
Wild speculation mode on
Drug shipment not go to where it suppose to go or got discovered? Maybe he ratted one or someone out there?
The Fedex hub in Memphis if you google it has had several instances of drugs being found and shipments disappearing.
Wild speculation mode off
Note: Speculation only.
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So here's what I'm finding interesting:
No big reports of riots or demands for the dismantling of police forces. No 24/7 coverage of events. This was clearly a gang of cops beating a guy to death. George Floyd was at most a negligent death. Compare and contrast reactions.
The Fox News site has zero coverage as of this morning. The CNN site has a "What Memphis did right" story.
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With a black police chief in charge and five black cops being the perps, the media realized that spinning this as "a racist attack" wasn't going to fly . . . those who tried to make that case (and there WERE some who tried!) must have been taken aside and told it simply wasn't going to work this time.
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Just because the officers were black doesn’t mean they aren’t violent ultra maga white supremisists promoting institutional systemic racism.
C’mon man.
Kind of like you were reading their playbook.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/opinions/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-department-jones/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/27/opinions/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-department-jones/index.html)
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As I said on page 1
No matter the police officer's race they're doing the white man's bidding.
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Possibly totally unfounded rumor: The deceased was having sex with a romantic interest of one of the cops.
Possibly totally unfounded rumor: several of the cops were members of the Vice Lords gang.
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Possibly totally unfounded rumor: The deceased was having sex with a romantic interest of one of the cops.
Possibly totally unfounded rumor: several of the cops were members of the Vice Lords gang.
I heard the first unfounded rumor, but not the second.
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Race Race Race
Whoopi said. “Seems things don’t make sense to people unless it’s somebody they can feel, or they can recognize. But how many times do we have to — do we need to see white people also get beaten before anybody will do anything?”
Meanwhile, both co-hosts Sara Haines and Alyssa Farah Griffin noted they did watch the video, saying that, especially as white women, they felt it was important to do so and be aware of the brutality
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‘The View': Whoopi Goldberg Wonders if Real Police Reform Would Come From Seeing ‘White People Also Get Beaten’
https://www.thewrap.com/the-view-tyre-nichols-video-reaction-whoopi-goldberg/
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Race Race Race
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‘The View': Whoopi Goldberg Wonders if Real Police Reform Would Come From Seeing ‘White People Also Get Beaten’
https://www.thewrap.com/the-view-tyre-nichols-video-reaction-whoopi-goldberg/
It happens often, and it gets reported often. And cops kill innocent white people, too, and that gets reported.
But Whoopi ignores all those reports, because those are only white people being beaten or killed. She only cares if/when the victims are black.
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New Netflix Series On Tyre Nichols Beating To Feature White Officers
https://babylonbee.com/news/new-netflix-series-on-tyre-nichols-beating-to-feature-white-officers
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/63d7ea213649c63d7ea213649d.jpg)
"While we know the 5 officers who killed Nichols were factually black, it is also clear that they were morally white," said Netflix VP of Inclusion Vernā Myers. "Since TV is a visual medium, we want to convey to the viewer that these officers had the invisible specter of white supremacy flowing through their veins."
At publishing time, the 5 white actors had been canceled for taking acting jobs away from people of color.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Nothing is still the word I will use. Dan Bongino explains it better than I can.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1619591730432704512
Oh, I don't want police beating anyone to death if we can help it. We need trials and so forth. I am in favor of judicial executions for anyone guilty of a serious violent crime. Being beaten to death would probably violate the cruel and unusual punishment clause though; hanging is good enough. If these cops really did murder the motorist (I don't know), I hope they are all executed.
It is pretty weird to say some people don't deserve to be beaten to death though. Our prisons are full of people who deserve to be beaten to death.
Suppose someone beat a a baby to death. Does he/she not deserve to be beaten to death?
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How about we just take the (*^^_&^%% who stole my catalytic converter last night, and give him to me for a week of hard labor? Because that's what it will cost me to fix my van.
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Suppose someone beat a a baby to death. Does he/she not deserve to be beaten to death?
No. You put someone like that down clean, like a rabid dog or other threat. Beating someone (or something) to death, outside of some exigent circumstances where you are lacking tools and they must be stopped immediately, is IMO indicative of mental problems.
. If these cops really did murder the motorist (I don't know), I hope they are all executed.
Side note: we have four angles of video showing the cops beat the guy, and the guy goes to the hospital straight from the beating, and than dies at the hospital from injuries sustained in the beating. If you don't know they killed him now, what evidence would it take?
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If you don't know they killed him now, what evidence would it take?
I don't know if they killed him because I didn't watch the video or read the autopsy report.
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is IMO indicative of mental problems.
>:D
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Race Race Race
Family's lawyer is accusing the Memphis PD of protecting the only white cop involved in this.
According to the article Hemphill was the officer who pulled Nichols from the car but he was not present at the 2nd scene where the fatal beating occurred
The only white officer involved in the horrific beating and death of Tyre Nichols was 'shielded and protected' by the Memphis Police Department, the family's attorneys have claimed.
Preston Hemphill was suspended with pay pending a hearing, but has so far been spared the criminal charges filed against his five police colleagues.
Hemphill, 26, who joined the force in 2018, wore the body-camera that captured the first of four videos released by authorities on Friday of the traffic stop and violent confrontation that followed.
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Three members of the Memphis Fire Department who responded to the fatal police confrontation were also dismissed on Monday after investigators found he was beaten and left handcuffed on the ground without medical attention for nearly 15 minutes.
According to a fire department statement, emergency medical technicians Robert Long and JaMichael Sandridge failed to assess Nichols' condition when they arrived, while fire Lieutenant Michelle Whitaker, who drove them to the scene, remained in her vehicle.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11695757/Memphis-police-accused-protecting-white-officer-involved-arrest-Tyre-Nichols.html
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Race Race Race
Trying to squeeze racism from a turnip
The Daily Show stand-in host D.L Hughley says five cops charged over Tyre Nichols' death were arrested quickly BECAUSE they are black - as it emerges only white officer involved has NOT been charged
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11697109/Huntington-Park-cops-shoot-dead-double-amputee-Anthony-Lowe-Jr-tries-run.html
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No. You put someone like that down clean, like a rabid dog or other threat. Beating someone (or something) to death, outside of some exigent circumstances where you are lacking tools and they must be stopped immediately, is IMO indicative of mental problems.
Side note: we have four angles of video showing the cops beat the guy, and the guy goes to the hospital straight from the beating, and than dies at the hospital from injuries sustained in the beating. If you don't know they killed him now, what evidence would it take?
No, you treat them like a rapist or child molester. Feet first down a woodchipper.
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No, you treat them like a rapist or child molester. Feet first down a woodchipper.
Amusement park style slide into a pond of gators. Have the gators trained to expect dinner at the sound of a bell.
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It's too cold for gators here but in the right places that would work.
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I'm legitimately not pointing fingers here, but it has been my experience that folks that gleefully look forward to violence either haven't done much violence, or need some help.
Kill a few folks and report back.
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My half-brother once said of me "He'll fight at the drop of a hat, and drop his own hat!" I've mellowed considerably since.
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I'm legitimately not pointing fingers here, but it has been my experience that folks that gleefully look forward to violence either haven't done much violence, or need some help.
Kill a few folks and report back.
Dogmush, I don't think you understand me. I don't think killing people is fun. I am a non-violent person. I have only had to kill animals, and I hate it.
1) I want to expand judicial execution to get rid of people who commit serious violent crimes, in order to prevent further crimes.
2) I think methods of execution should, in compliance with the bill of rights, be no more painful than hanging, shooting, etc. But of course, that has nothing to do with what people deserve; it is better than most violent criminals deserve. What murderers deserve is simply what they did to their victims. This is in line with the concept of karma. This is simply not possible in the Judicial system under the Bill of Rights, which prohibits the just deserts for the most evil offenders.
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I'm legitimately not pointing fingers here, but it has been my experience that folks that gleefully look forward to violence either haven't done much violence, or need some help.
Kill a few folks and report back.
(Bolding mine)
If that's in reference to the Eighth Amendment proscription against cruel and unusual punishment, I agree. Quick and clean permanent removal from society is one thing, tortuous punishment is another. It tells me something about the advocate thereof.
Calling it "deserved" does not free one from the stigma, no matter how defensive one gets about it.
Terry, 230RN
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I would hope the over the top silliness of my suggestion would make it clear it was largely sarcasm
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No, you treat them like a rapist or child molester. Feet first down a woodchipper.
QUOTED FOR THE PERMANENT RECORD.
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Quick and clean permanent removal from society is one thing, tortuous punishment is another. It tells me something about the advocate thereof.
I did not advocate torture anywhere. I have clearly explained that it violates the bill of rights, even if the person being executed deserves it. You are misunderstanding what I am writing. Good grief.
If you don't like me, well, I don't even know who you are. You won't be the only person who thinks I am a jerk.
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And don't you dare say I have no sense of humor
Terry, 230RN
I've heard that excuse before. Even used it myself.
Oh good grief
How could someone take amusement parks slides into pools of gators seriously?
Okay, how about catapult rides into pools of gators? :P
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Sorry about that. No excuse, Sir.
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Be that as it may
Some are determined to play the race card in this.
Tyre Nichols, who will be laid to rest on Wednesday, was killed for driving while Black
The question we should be asking now is, why are Black people stopped so often for traffic violations? Why are so many across the United States dying at the hands, or tasers or guns of police officers during these stops? And what can be done to change this horrific situation?
Opinion: The deplorable reason Memphis police stopped Tyre Nichols
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/31/opinions/tyre-nichols-funeral-black-drivers-wiley/index.html
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From that article:
So often in cases like these, the victim is on trial. But here, not only has the Memphis Police Department deemed the force used to detain him excessive, it also stated that there is no evidence that Nichols was even driving recklessly, the asserted reason he was stopped in the first place. Since the firing of the five police officers charged in his death, two additional officers have been relieved of duty, as have three EMT workers.
Perhaps I have not delved into this story much. Can someone summarize what the one white officer who was suspended and the two EMT workers did? How were they involved?
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From that article:
Perhaps I have not delved into this story much. Can someone summarize what the one white officer who was suspended and the two EMT workers did? How were they involved?
The one white officer was at the first scene, where the initial traffic stop occurred, and according to some was the one who pulled Nichols out of the car. But it should be noted he did not chase, as far as I'm aware, Nichols to the 2nd scene where the fatal beating occurred.
The EMTs IIRC are accused of standing around doing nothing for a long period of time (15-20 minutes?) while Nichols lay on the ground bleeding at the 2nd scene after the beating.
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May have overlooked it or they haven't said but who made the initial reckless driving call?
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May have overlooked it or they haven't said but who made the initial reckless driving call?
The reason for that initial stop seems to be more and more critical. It was stated "officially" that it was not for reckless driving, still, to my mind, it seems like "officially," everybody's side-stepping the issue.
Yet apparently, Nichols himself recognized a genuine danger and tried (unsuccessfully) to run away and the beating started when they caught up to him. And they were pretty diligent about tracking him down after his escape. (I was tempted to add, "escape from their clutches.")
As I say, the genuine honest-to-G-d reason for the initial stop seems to be more and more critical, yet less and less accessible.
Any clues, any rumors, anything?
Terry, 230RN
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I've had questions about the initial stop itself from the moment I read the Chief said the reckless driving charges were false. That raises more questions about the stop. Was this guy targeted? I don't know.
Some were saying he was fooling around with one of the 5s GF but others are saying that's rubbish.
Gang?
He worked at Fedex, drug shipment gone bad?
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Were these cops wearing body cameras? I hadn't heard if they were.
I hear commentary from some asking if people would be doing something if the victim was white. What more to these activists want? Seems like the initial reactions are what someone would want. They fired the cops and charged them. Others potentially connected are suspended.
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Of course all this could just be a result of a perfect storm of Aholes
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That seems to be happening a lot these days.
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I've had questions about the initial stop itself from the moment I read the Chief said the reckless driving charges were false. That raises more questions about the stop. Was this guy targeted? I don't know.
Some were saying he was fooling around with one of the 5s GF but others are saying that's rubbish.
Gang?
He worked at Fedex, drug shipment gone bad?
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(Undetlining mine)
The longer this goes on without a palpable reason for the stop, the more I suspect it was some kind of morality BS.
Did he have a Facebook or other social account where he was badmouthing the PD or something?
Sorry to be persistent about it, and I'm sure the local reporters have probed on it, but the longer there's no additional public data, the more suspiciouser it gets.
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Race Race Race
Here's the "Rev" Al Sharpton
Al Sharpton claims if Tyre Nichols had been White, police 'wouldn’t have beat him like that'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/al-sharpton-claims-tyre-nichols-white-police-wouldnt-beat-like
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google vice lords tyre nichols
vice lords is a well known gang, the cops are "allegedly" members but the smart money is betting they are and they were told to beat him to death
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google vice lords tyre nichols
vice lords is a well known gang, the cops are "allegedly" members but the smart money is betting they are and they were told to beat him to death
But only because he was black right?
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Police involved shooting in Memphis
May or not be connected
BREAKING NEWS: Memphis cop is in 'extremely critical condition' after being shot by a 'confrontational man' at a library: Black man is also killed one day after the funeral of Tyre Nichols who died at hands of cops in same city
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11707427/Memphis-cop-critical-condition-one-person-dead-shooting-library.html
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With what happened to Nichols (and this might be construed as "insensitive"), could this be considered as "black on black crime"? =| ???
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Free the Memphis five!!
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They were saying the white cop pulled him out of his car but this contradicts that.
Anyway, be interesting to find out who the "civilian" is.
The files show that Officer Demetrius Haley - who first forced Nichols out of his car - shined a flashlight in his victims face after he had been handcuffed and propped limply against a squad car, then took a photo with his personal cellphone.
Haley then sent that image to six people, including a pair of police officers, department employee, and a civilian acquaintance.
Memphis cop charged in deadly beating of Tyre Nichols took a PHOTO of him handcuffed, bloodied and slumped next to patrol car: Officer sent image to six people
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11725233/Memphis-cop-charged-deadly-beating-Tyre-Nichols-took-PHOTO-bloodied.html
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Allegedly the same five beat up another person, also black, 3 days earlier
Ex-Memphis cops charged in Tyre Nichols' death 'swarmed' Black Army vet and beat him 3 days earlier: lawsuit
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ex-memphis-cops-charged-tyre-nichols-death-swarmed-black-army-vet-beat-days-earlier-lawsuit
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So we've got 5(+) Memphis cops in deep *expletive deleted*it over this beating, and now a 2nd. Does Memphis have 500 officers so we can still claim that 99% cops are good? I'd be real surprised if this was the only times these thugs went rogue.
I wonder how many "good cops" knew what kind of thugs they were working with and turned a blind eye because of "thin blue line" bullshat.
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Memphis PD has 2,142 officers.
Which doesn't change the fact that Law Enforcement as an institution in the US is fundamentally broken, and you should not trust cops.
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Still not making the 99% good cops metric =D
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I'll bet nobody saw this coming:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/02/09/district-attorney-reviewing-cases-involving-former-memphis-police-tyre-nichols/11222540002/
The prosecutor's office is going to review ALL cases involving the five officers charged in the slaying.
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Memphis PD has 2,142 officers.
Which doesn't change the fact that Law Enforcement as an institution in the US is fundamentally broken, and you should not trust cops.
Have you been hanging out with Bosco1 again?
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More fun in Memphis
Memphis police say 11 total victims were found after gunfire erupted at and around a nightclub early Sunday.
One person was found dead, while another five people were in critical condition, police said.
The gunfire stretched to two separate but nearby scenes, which investigators believe to be connected.
Memphis shooting leaves 11 victims, suspect remains at large: police
https://www.foxnews.com/us/memphis-shooting-leaves-11-victims-suspect-remains-large-police
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Update.... well from May 4th.
Cause of death: Blunt force trauma to the head
Family is suing for $550 million
Note how CNN starts the article with making sure you know the most important thing in this
Tyre Nichols, the 29-year-old Black man who was violently beaten by Memphis police officers in January, died from blunt force trauma to the head and his death has been ruled a homicide, his autopsy results revealed Thursday.
Tyre Nichols died from blunt force trauma to the head from Memphis police beating, autopsy shows
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/04/us/tyre-nichols-autopsy-report-released/index.html