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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1425 on: May 16, 2024, 06:58:06 AM »
Yeah, that’s inconsistent with your previous claim. Administering a territory for the benefit of its inhabitants (which is legally what the British claimed to be doing) is not making the natives tenants rather than owners, nor does it grant ownership by conquest.



The conquest of the previous owners sure did though.

Since you brought up the Brits were "Administering a territory for the benefit of it's inhabitants"  (which is not quite what it said, but still) what was the other half of the Dual Mandate again?  Britain was supposed to "provide administrative advice and assistance by a Mandatory until such time as they are able to stand alone" and what else again?  Starts with a "B" and ends with "declaration".

It's also worth noting that Mandatory Palestine was the only Class A Mandate in the world that couldn't get it's *expletive deleted*it together and "stand alone" before WWII.

Nothing in there is inconsistant with my previous claim that "Palestine" as an Arab nation has never existed.



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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1426 on: May 16, 2024, 07:31:20 AM »
The assumption you’re making is that there was some continuous presence there that somehow became Israel. Unless you accept the bible as authority, there is absolutely no such presence.
I would agree that there was no continuous Jewish government entity that became Israel.  Likewise, there was no continuous Palestinian government entity that could become Palestine.

There has been, however a continuous Jewish and non-Jewish presence in Israel for thousands of years.

So you accept the Palestinians right to keep their home, you just don’t accept their tactics?
Which specific Palestinians are we talking about?  And which "home" are they keeping?

Do I like the regular use of terror attacks - funded and encouraged by people with no interest in the wellbeing of the Palestinian people - to further the Palestinian cause?  No.

If your neighbours used terrorism to resist a Mexican takeover, I suppose you’d be out there condemning them and offering up your home out of shame?
No more than you have given up your house out of shame for how its land was taken from previous owners.

Jews who were forced out of the US allied gulf states definitely should have the right to return to their homelands.
Do they?

They are not and never have been a significant fraction of the Israeli population, which is almost entirely European immigrants within a single generation (including Russia).
;/  No.  Yes, Europeans made up the majority of immigrants, but hundreds of thousands of early immigrants were Jews that had been expelled by Muslim nations.  The Russian immigrants largely came post-USSR.

You’ve made a conclusion about Israeli land claims which is directly contradictory to your own views about your rights.
What, praytell, are my conclusions about Israeli land claims and my own views about rights?

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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1427 on: May 16, 2024, 10:57:53 AM »
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Yep, perfectly stable
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« Reply #1428 on: May 16, 2024, 04:19:14 PM »
Update

California professor Loay Alnaji is arrested on involuntary manslaughter charge for death of Jewish protester Paul Kessler
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12758041/California-professor-Loay-Alnjaji-arrested-involuntary-manslaughter-charge-death-Jewish-protester-Paul-Kessler.html

And another update

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    UPDATE:

    Medical Examiner Confirms Bullhorn Blow to the Head Caused Pro-Israel Demonstrator Paul Kessler's Death

    Judge rules enough evidence for anti-Israel protestor and Moorpark College professor Loay Alnaji to go on trial for manslaughter.https://t.co/WakXo4N1oP https://t.co/wUaSow7oGF
    — AG (@AGHamilton29) May 16, 2024
FINALLY! Moorpark Professor Charged with Manslaughter in Death of Pro-Israel Protestor Paul Kessler
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/05/16/paul-kessler-death-manslaughter-bullhorn-moorepark-n2396302
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1429 on: May 16, 2024, 04:21:13 PM »
And another update
FINALLY! Moorpark Professor Charged with Manslaughter in Death of Pro-Israel Protestor Paul Kessler
https://twitchy.com/justmindy/2024/05/16/paul-kessler-death-manslaughter-bullhorn-moorepark-n2396302

While I know I'm a broken record on the subject - this guy will get up to 4 years for killing someone. What are those 06JAN sentences again?
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« Reply #1430 on: May 17, 2024, 12:40:22 PM »
Update on one of Hamas's guests

Kidnapped Shani Louk is dead, her family announces, after 'bone from the base of her skull' is found three weeks after she was abducted by Hamas terrorists and paraded on the back of a truck
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12687753/Kidnapped-Shani-Louk-dead-family-announces-three-weeks-abducted-Hamas-terrorists-Nova-festival-paraded-truck.html

Reportedly her body has been found.
Not sure how this meshes with the report above, maybe the bone from the back of her skull was blown out from her execution.

IDF find the body of Israeli hostage Shani Louk - seven months after she was paraded semi-naked in the back of a truck by Hamas in images that horrified the world
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13430945/Body-Israeli-hostage-Shani-Louk-paraded-semi-naked-truck-Hamas-October-7-IDF.html
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« Reply #1431 on: May 17, 2024, 01:15:13 PM »
Reportedly her body has been found.
Not sure how this meshes with the report above, maybe the bone from the back of her skull was blown out from her execution.

IDF find the body of Israeli hostage Shani Louk - seven months after she was paraded semi-naked in the back of a truck by Hamas in images that horrified the world
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13430945/Body-Israeli-hostage-Shani-Louk-paraded-semi-naked-truck-Hamas-October-7-IDF.html

Your post is nothing more than a propogandist assault on impoverished natives everywhere.
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« Reply #1432 on: May 17, 2024, 01:51:31 PM »
Your post is nothing more than a propogandist assault on impoverished natives everywhere.


How dare he paint them in a negative light by highlighting their actions.
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« Reply #1433 on: May 17, 2024, 01:54:47 PM »
As penance I'm going on a hunger strike and chant From The River To the Sea until 17:00 or until my food heats up in the microwave, whichever comes first.
But hey! I'm got it at 50% power so it going to take while, like maybe 8 minutes or so, but I'm starving until then!
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« Reply #1434 on: May 17, 2024, 02:08:43 PM »
Food is done!
That was torture! I can now look those hunger strikers in the face now. I am one of them!
For Pal....shouldn't talk with my mouth full. Nom Nom Nom
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« Reply #1435 on: May 17, 2024, 04:51:17 PM »
3 more reasons why I don't give a flying *expletive deleted*ck to what lengths Israel goes in its efforts to destroy Hamas.
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« Reply #1436 on: Today at 08:38:10 AM »
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« Reply #1437 on: Today at 08:46:26 AM »
Wow the IDF has some hot female soldiers...
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« Reply #1438 on: Today at 09:03:21 AM »
Wow the IDF has some hot female soldiers...

Yep
But the below article is not too happy with this particular one's IDF past and even before this current mess started there were those trying to get her canceled over it. Article is from 2017

Why Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman is a slap on the faces of Palestinian girls in Gaza
https://tribune.com.pk/article/51227/why-gal-gadot-as-wonder-woman-is-a-slap-on-the-faces-of-palestinian-girls-in-gaza



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« Reply #1439 on: Today at 10:16:00 AM »
The Iranians are missing their president
Site has not been reached yet and they're not even sure crash is the right word yet as the article does says some communications has been established with others on the flight so could be nothing

Iranian president Ebrahim Raisi missing in helicopter crash as frantic rescue mission is launched - hours after posing for pictures with Azerbaijan's leader
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13435325/Iranian-president-Ebrahim-Raisi-involved-helicopter-hard-landing-incident.html
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« Reply #1440 on: Today at 10:43:20 AM »
State media is reporting the helicopter had to make a  "hard landing" but reportedly they still have yet to locate the helicopter

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-69035051?src_origin=BBCS_BBC
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