The Dinosaur Wall

[K Frame]

Ooh, ooh, what did I win!?!?!?!?!?



I hope it's a pony!!!

Nope! You win a velicoraptor! Just don't feed it after midnight zip!

[Perd Hapley]

Christ told us not to judge

A myth, actually.

[Perd Hapley]

What makes one gospel cannonical, and another not, is groups of men got together and decided that yeah, this gospel supports their interpretation of their religious beliefs.

Also a myth.

[Perd Hapley]

' some if whom are more doctrinally correct.'

So, what... God comes down every Tuesday and passes judgement on which groups are correct and which are not?

Every group claims to go have the inside track on the path to religious truth. Who are you to pass judgement on them? What makes your particular version of religion truer than the rest?

Untwist your panties. I didn't say I knew who was naughty and nice, did I? Some versions of Christian doctrine hew more closely to the actual teachings of Christ. That's just the way it is, regardless of how you or I feel about it.

[charby]

Well if they are myth's enlighten us.

[Perd Hapley]

Well if they are myth's enlighten us.

If you want to know what Jesus actually said about judging, read past the second word of the passage you cited. And read the rest of the Gospels. We've hashed this out a number of times on this forum, so there's no need for me to go at it again. Simply put, He just pointed out that you shouldn't judge anyone by a standard you weren't willing to meet, yourself.

As for the all the tin-foil-hattery about the canon being manipulated by sectarians (or Constantine  ), we've gone over that a hundred times, as well.

[Balog]

Two way street much? You came into the thread sure I was trashing your religious beliefs, ands apparently haven't moved away from that. Whatever.

1. I'm not a young earther so your bashing has nothing to do with my personal beliefs.
2. You were mocking certain legitimate religious beliefs in a thread not really related to religion or to them, I pointed that out. If that's all it takes to qualify in your mind as extreme offense etc I really have to question your myriad vitriolic rants over far smaller perceived slights. Cornbread anyone?
3. I never said anything about the legitimacy of your beliefs, merely pointed out that your characterization of yourself as a believer is inaccurate based on what you've said.

Let me demonstrate before the po-mo "you can't tell me what's really Christianity!" spiel. Someone says "I'm a Buddhist monk." You respond "Oh that's interesting! What exactly is it that Buddhists believe, I've never really chatted with one?" He says "Buddhists believe that there is one God in three Persons, the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Mankind was created perfect but fell into sin after being tempted by Satan, and Jesus had to be born and then sacrificed in our place to atone for the blood guilt of our sin."

That man isn't a Buddhist, he's a Christian calling himself a Buddhist for some weird reason. Similarly, it's not truthful to claim to be a believer in the Bible (ie a Christian) when you think the Bible is a bunch of fairy tales but you like the moral of the stories. Well, most of them anyway. That's somewhere between moralistic therapeutic deism and atheism that goes to church for the community. I'm not trying to argue you out of your beliefs, but there's a pretty clear directive to oppose it when folks claim to be representative of Christianity but espouse false teaching. Jude 1:3-16 is one of the clearest, 2 Timothy 4:1-2, 2 Corinthians 11:4, Galatians 1:7, 1 John 4:1-3, 2 Peter 2:1, Romans 16:17-18, Colossians 2:8 etc etc

I'm not attacking you or your beliefs, just asking that you don't claim to share mine when you in fact do not.

[charby]

If you want to know what Jesus actually said about judging, read past the second word of the passage you cited. And read the rest of the Gospels. We've hashed this out a number of times on this forum, so there's no need for me to go at it again. Simply put, He just pointed out that you shouldn't judge anyone by a standard you weren't willing to meet, yourself.

As for the all the tin-foil-hattery about the canon being manipulated by sectarians (or Constantine  ), we've gone over that a hundred times, as well.

1 Peter 5:8

[Perd Hapley]

1 Peter 5:8

And?

[charby]

Romans 14:17

[Ben]

THE DINOSAURS ARE ANGRY!

[Ben]

[Ben]

[Ben]

[Balog]

1 Peter 5:8

8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

^^ Which would seem like a good reason to oppose false teaching (frequently described as demonic).

Romans 14:17

17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.

^^ Which (in context, gotta have context) is about how Jewish food laws are no longer in effect, but it's better to forgoe something that isn't per se sinful if it would harm your fellow brothers in Christ.


I'm confused by what point you're trying to make?

[RoadKingLarry]

 

Dang I love these threads. Makes it so much easier to decide who gets to be in the tree fort.


 

[charby]

Balog

The numerous years I spent in parochial schools, we would use bible passages to convey thought as messages, sort of like passing notes.

1 Peter 5:8 means I called fistful an adversary (non demonic)

Romans 14:17 is a verse that has been used to say, lets agree to disagree.

Read it however you want.

[Ben]

Dang I love these threads. Makes it so much easier to decide who gets to be in the tree fort.


 

Dinosaurs? Can dinosaurs be in the fort?

RAWRR!

Dinosaurs!

[RoadKingLarry]

Just the little ones and no velociraptors.

[fifth_column]

"Do not seek to follow in the footsteps of the wise. Seek what they sought." - Matsuo Basho

[Tallpine]

Dang I love these threads. Makes it so much easier to decide who gets to be in the tree fort.


 

Live with a man for forty years.  Then start to discuss religion, and you will learn who he really is.
- Shun You

[AZRedhawk44]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0155Ppvd8o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI9ImScQGAo

[Gewehr98]

Although the Apocrypha are considered verboten to us Wisconsin Synod Lutherans, I still managed to get my hands on a version of the Bible that had them as Inter-Testamental books.

I made the mistake of showing this trophy to my theology professor, whose face turned a vivid shade of red.  That alone was worth it!   

(I'm the only one in my graduating class who is not a Lutheran pastor, makes for awkward reunions but hey!)

[MechAg94]

Balog

The numerous years I spent in parochial schools, we would use bible passages to convey thought as messages, sort of like passing notes.

1 Peter 5:8 means I called fistful an adversary (non demonic)

Romans 14:17 is a verse that has been used to say, lets agree to disagree.

Read it however you want.

I am curious how the Romans passage is used for that.  Interesting.  To me it points out that being a Christian has nothing to do with any actions you might take, but with state of mind and mental attitude.  The Jewish law had become so ironclad and detailed that following the law outwardly was more important than actually believing in the one true God. 

But don't know that verse or Romans well enough to say. 

[charby]

I am curious how the Romans passage is used for that.  Interesting.  To me it points out that being a Christian has nothing to do with any actions you might take, but with state of mind and mental attitude.  The Jewish law had become so ironclad and detailed that following the law outwardly was more important than actually believing in the one true God. 

But don't know that verse or Romans well enough to say. 

Basically bickering over what laws is Christian canon/rite/etc is not what Christianity is but we agree that Christianity is about belief in Christ and the good things associated living Christ like.

So in a nutshell, we are arguing over the petty details but we know the bigger picture of being a Christian.

In school we used as saying we agree to disagree. In school using bible passages was like our code to communicate and learn scripture at the same time.