GOP 2012 ticket prediction

[longeyes]

Is there even ONE candidate who can be relied upon not to cave on illegal immigration?  One?  I'm having serious doubts.  And that's why I don't think this issue is really going to be solved by political means.  When politicians permit no honest and frank debate things of serious moment devolve.  Instead of dealing with the border we have continuing chatter about the DREAM Act (and chatter is that largely misrepresentation of what it would mean with its huge family-reunification multiplier effect).  I'm bringing this up because several of the great conservative hopes--including Christie, maybe even Perry and Palin--refuse to take hard positions on this.

[roo_ster]

So what's the scuttlebutt on Rick Perry? I like that he CCWs (I believe we had a thread on the coyote incident) and he seems to be good for the TX economy, but otherwise I don't know much about him.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/27/perrys-path-gop-nomination-clearest/

Governor Goodhair has his screw-ups, flip-flops, and the like:
* TTC
* HPV vaccine
* Illegal immigration squish

On all those issues, he has been "born again hard" like ol' Private Pyle, and is supposedly on the side of the angels.

But, the simple fact is that he has been governor for 10+ years while keeping a lid (mostly) on regulation & taxes to the point where Texas is in better shape than 48 or so of the either states.  Texas has produced more jobs than the rest of the nation combined the last few years.  Perry is on the brink of helping to push through more real, no-bull, "less-spending than before" budget cuts to the Texas state gov't budget than Congress has to the Federal budget.  These include cuts to education and welfare programs.

I don't like the man personally, but I'll give him his due.  He knows enough to get the eff outta th eway of folks who make good things happen and is a charismatic guy.  A Perry/Jindal ticket might be just what the doctor ordered.

Oh, Perry is great on RKBA...and hard on coyotes.

[RocketMan]

longeyes, non-Democrat candidates cannot address the illegal immigration issue without being cast as racist.  That's why they tend to side-step or ignore the issue.

[KD5NRH]

So what's the scuttlebutt on Rick Perry? I like that he CCWs (I believe we had a thread on the coyote incident) and he seems to be good for the TX economy, but otherwise I don't know much about him.

We may do like we did with Bush; send Perry off to DC so we can get the TSA's new pet Dewhurst out of the LtGov power seat and into the figurehead spot.  That's how we got rid of LtGov Perry, after all, so he knows the tactic well.

[SteveT]

There's going to be two candidates who will get attention at the beginning of the primaries:  The one who wins Iowa and the one who wins N.H.   Romney's almost a lock for the 2nd one, and right now Patawley is for the 1st.   This is unless Bachman or Palin jump in.

Press and Money will flow to those 2 candidates and away from everyone else.   

[longeyes]

longeyes, non-Democrat candidates cannot address the illegal immigration issue without being cast as racist.  That's why they tend to side-step or ignore the issue.

Understand.  One thought I've had recently on this topic is this: the ONLY justification for immigration, both legal and illegal, is economic growth.  If the GOP is going to entertain any thoughts of "compromise" on immigration it ought to be coupled with serious demands for huge concessions on growth incentives, including, of course, lower taxes on income, investments, and estates.  Unless that occurs, any laxity on immigration period makes zero sense.

[SteveT]

Bachman is in now.  The candidates on the stage tonight in NH are what we've got probably (with the exception of Huntsman)

[makattak]

Bachman is in now.  The candidates on the stage tonight in NH are what we've got probably (with the exception of Huntsman)

Neither Perry nor Palin were on the stage. At least one of them will be in the running.

[seeker_two]

Neither Perry nor Palin were on the stage. At least one of them will be in the running.

...and, if you kept up with the last governor's election, you'll never see Perry on a debate stage.... 

[Perd Hapley]

Herman Cain just lost my vote. They asked him thin crust or deep dish. He chose wrong. I mean, deep dish? What next, Canadian bacon? 

[makattak]

...and, if you kept up with the last governor's election, you'll never see Perry on a debate stage.... 

Well, as I'm not a Texan, it's unlikely I'd keep up with the Texas governor's race.

[kgbsquirrel]

Herman Cain just lost my vote. They asked him thin crust or deep dish. He chose wrong. I mean, deep dish? What next, Canadian bacon? 

Well, I hear there are even some people who put pineapple on their pizza pie. As long as he doesn't cross that line I think I can forgive him this one fallacy.

[Jamie B]

Ham, pineapple, and onion is not half bad.....

[kgbsquirrel]

Ham, pineapple, and onion is not half bad.....

*hisssssssssssss*

[makattak]

Well, I hear there are even some people who put pineapple on their pizza pie. As long as he doesn't cross that line I think I can forgive him this one fallacy.

There are also people who call their pizza a 'pizza pie'. These same people also think that pizza should have thin crust.

I'm sorry, it's not a pie and it needs to be thick and covered with massive amounts of toppings.

I saw a place in DC that advertised itself as "Chicago Pizza!" and when I walked in and say trays of thin crust, single topping pizzas, I just turned right around and walked back out.

[kgbsquirrel]

The best pizza I've ever had in my life was at John's Pizzeria in New York. Was there for Fleet Week 2004, my liberty buddy and I were treated to the place by an outstanding local lady.

I'd almost go back to NYC just for their pizza.... almost. 

[lupinus]

The best pizza I've ever had in my life was at John's Pizzeria in New York. Was there for Fleet Week 2004, my liberty buddy and I were treated to the place by an outstanding local lady.

I'd almost go back to NYC just for their pizza.... almost. 

Pffft

Best pizza pie is across the bridge is Jersey 

[Perd Hapley]

A lot of restaurants will even serve "pizza" without a single pepperoni in sight. For some reason, these places are never shut down by the authorities. It is most frustrating.

There are also people who call their pizza a 'pizza pie'. These same people also think that pizza should have thin crust.

If there is such a connection, which I doubt, it ought to work the other way. A fruit pie is usually thicker than the deep dish monstrosities you call pizzas.

[longeyes]

Herman Cain just lost my vote. They asked him thin crust or deep dish. He chose wrong. I mean, deep dish? What next, Canadian bacon? 

He's half Sicilian, that's why.  How do you think he got to be CEO of Godfather pizza?

[seeker_two]

He's half Sicilian, that's why.  How do you think he got to be CEO of Godfather pizza?

I'd bet that Cain could make us a pizza we can't refuse..... 

[makattak]

If there is such a connection, which I doubt, it ought to work the other way. A fruit pie is usually thicker than the deep dish monstrosities you call pizzas.

It ought to work that way. A real pizza is actually THICKER than a fruit pie. Yet those adherents of the New York heresy think pizza is thin and a "pie".

[Perd Hapley]

You think New York pizza is thin? Then you ain't seen St. Louis pizza. Cracker-thin. St. Louis-style also means provolone cheese, but I prefer mozzarella. Sometimes, olive oil with garlic is nice, instead of tomato sauce.

People don't call them pies, here. That may be a New York thing. It has nothing to do with thickness, though. It's just because pizza are pie-shaped.

[AZRedhawk44]

St. Louis-style

Stone the heretic.

It's fistful's fault.

There is no such thing.

 

[roo_ster]

...and, if you kept up with the last governor's election, you'll never see Perry on a debate stage.... 

No need.  He was running against an anthropomorphic turnip with delusions of adequacy.

He also didn't meet with a single newspaper editorial board, because he knew they are all lefties anyways.

He has debated in past elections, though.  

Well, I hear there are even some people who put pineapple on their pizza pie. As long as he doesn't cross that line I think I can forgive him this one fallacy.

A Georgian (the one in the former USSR) opened a pizza place nearby.  I tried to order a pineapple and ham pizza for my wife.  The thickly accented reply was, "We only make Italian pizza."  No further discussion of pineapple or other adulterants was entertained.

Dude would take your order and then alter it to HIS requirements as he saw fit.  Thing was, he made the best traditional pizza I ever ate; so I learned to order, eat whatever he brought out, STFU, and revel in the best damn pizza I ever ate. 

[Doggy Daddy]

... I learned to order, eat whatever he brought out, STFU, and revel in the best damn pizza I ever ate. 

Pizza Nazi?  (No, that's NOT a thread Godwin in this instance!)

DD