Yes, that's right, you found me out, very insightful of you: I'M the one behind all the tea parties and the disguntled taxpayers and the people talking up suspect ammo shortages. Turn me in, brothers, do something noble and brave for your country. Listen, I'm not "initiating" anything--the quotation marks are for you, JamisJ--just reporting on what just about everyone here with half a brain knows is going on. This thread isn't "wandering"--that's another for you, JJ--it's just looping around into what the whole thing is really all about. But increasingly I wonder what the damn point is in even discussing it. I've said in other posts that what the exponents of liberty desperately need--and are perhaps in the first stages of getting--is a militant and dedicated civil rights movement that brings large masses of people out into the open and vocal--while there is still time. I mean LAWFUL assemblies that also reflect the deep feelings and true numbers of those who have a different vision of America from where we have been drifting. No more, no less. It is painfully obvious we need some leadership. Over and out.