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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2015, 04:28:29 PM »
I am curious if this has any relationship to the San Jose power station attack.

Similar M.O.: do the damage in an area unlikely to be immediately stopped and then escape. These attackers were clearly planning to avoid identification.

The locations are 6 hours apart, but given the time between the attacks (two years), it's not impossible they are related.

(Just musings, as we have almost no evidence about the power station, that's all it is likely to be.)
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2015, 04:34:14 PM »
Quote from: KD5NRH on December 02, 2015, 04:22:51 PM
Pre-release sketch:

[img]https://cbsbaltimore.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/dec-24-suspect.jpg?w=640&h=360

Well, I guess from that you might be able to say they weren't dark black men, but you certainly couldn't make a call on hispanic, arabic, or a host of other identities.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2015, 04:45:21 PM »
New reports are saying the location was hosting a Christmas party. If confirmed, makes you wonder if it's a factor.

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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2015, 05:02:30 PM »
Quote from: Brad Johnson on December 02, 2015, 04:45:21 PM
New reports are saying the location was hosting a Christmas party. If confirmed, makes you wonder if it's a factor.

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Also reported the location or close to it was a business / service that helps the mentally ill. Fox reported that a bit after it was breaking.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2015, 05:03:49 PM »
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2015, 05:29:41 PM »
False Flag OP?  Not ready to go there just yet. However I do believe that person(s) unknown are behind this using idiots, mentally unstable people and giving them the "push" needed for them to go off. All to shape the optics to be able to get gun control.  The frequency of these shootings is just too suspect.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2015, 05:40:44 PM »
Quote from: Ben on December 02, 2015, 04:18:28 PM
I'm sure there will be a lot of misinformation before actual facts begin to emerge.

Possibly a lot of misinformation and/or blatant lying afterwards..
I do recall the scrubbing/sanitizing of facebook pages of shooters in the past to give a completely different profile of religeon and political affiliations along with news agencies photoshopping the skin tone and facial features of a recent shooter to make him white when he was mixed race/black.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2015, 05:41:36 PM »
Shepard is digging in on mass shootings in the US more than other developed countries. Making noise about where did they get the tactical gear.
Most of the country see through the gun control rhetoric. They keep proving it to themselves.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2015, 05:44:51 PM »
Yep. Fox News liberal windbag, Shepard Smith, is talking, promoting gun control with out actually saying it.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2015, 05:50:36 PM »
Unconfirmed report of one shooter, not a good source. But they get it right sometimes. Farooq Saeed is his Name.

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/02/multiple-victims-reported-shot-in-san-bernardino/
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2015, 05:51:34 PM »
Is't he from the OK Chicago?

Go figure it Shep   they got away because they planned for more !!!

So how many shooters where in the Hollywood shootout?

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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2015, 06:02:37 PM »
Geez, several MSM outlets are making a big deal about announcing, "Don't worry viewers, the planned parenthood facilities are 1.5 miles away and are safe!".

Thanks for letting us know. The McDonalds is safe too. So is the Chevron station, and the quickie mart, and the Catholic church and Jewish synagogue.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2015, 06:10:21 PM »
Just heard one in custody. Alive or dead not said.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2015, 06:13:17 PM »
someone is shooting at the cops, requesting bearcat?
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2015, 06:16:28 PM »
one down outside car, one down inside car, one on the run.

Does that make 4?
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #40 on: December 02, 2015, 06:17:14 PM »
You listening to a scanner?
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #41 on: December 02, 2015, 06:20:22 PM »
I find it odd that the police / emt response as fast as they did. It was reported they the SWAT team just happened to be practicing nearby.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2015, 06:22:06 PM »
Quote from: Ron on December 02, 2015, 06:17:14 PM
You listening to a scanner?

Yes

The suspect. No wonder why they would never give a description.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #43 on: December 02, 2015, 06:22:11 PM »
Unrelated is my guess. So far seems these guys knew what they where about. They likely left in different vehicles, directions, and switching vehicles.
Subjects may already be showered and rifles scrubbed is not dumped somewhere.

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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #44 on: December 02, 2015, 06:25:07 PM »
Bad guys all over California, if they are smart, are parking their dark SUVs for the next days/weeks.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2015, 06:26:54 PM »
Quote from: never_retreat on December 02, 2015, 06:22:06 PM
Yes

The suspect. No wonder why they would never give a description.


The media knows this. The media not reporting it is pissing me off. Why?  Are they supporting a narrative from upon high.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2015, 06:41:14 PM »
Quote from: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on December 02, 2015, 06:26:54 PM
The media knows this. The media not reporting it is pissing me off. Why?  Are they supporting a narrative from upon high.

That's a bit derpy.  Until it is confirmed, they shouldn't be plastering a person across all over the news.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2015, 06:43:30 PM »
Quote from: 41magsnub on December 02, 2015, 06:41:14 PM
That's a bit derpy.  Until it is confirmed, they shouldn't be plastering a person across all over the news.

It was confirmed, ill try to find a link, this Saeed was mentioned in a Police BOLO. So no "derpy" thoughts here. Thank you.

Link of report almost 2 hours old.

http://controversialtimes.com/news/breaking-police-scanner-reveals-name-of-1-suspect-in-ca-mass-shooting/
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2015, 06:49:32 PM »
ABC is reporting all three suspects are either deceased or in custody.  Cops are currently looking inside the SUV they caught after a chase about two miles from the shooting scene.  Apparently they were found about four hours after the shooting.
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Re: Active shooter in CA: hostages, multiple fatalities
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2015, 06:53:14 PM »
Anyone notice the MSM is now calling the firearms used "long guns".  Very seldom are they mentioning semi-autos this time around.  I think we know the new direction of spin.  They will be going after all long arms, not just semi-autos.
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