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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #725 on: January 12, 2024, 10:22:46 PM »
And it's not true. Our politics and people can be broken independently. And politics can be improved without holding out for any utopian vision of "fixing" "the people".
Who are you and what have you done with our utopian zahc?!?

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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #726 on: January 13, 2024, 01:44:46 AM »
That's a good enough definition for me. Generalizations are generally true.

Sounds like a good t shirt slogan, but what practical conclusion can we draw from that?

And it's not true. Our politics and people can be broken independently. And politics can be improved without holding out for any utopian vision of "fixing" "the people".



That's absolutely wrong. Most Americans are moderate and capable of agreeing or compromising on most issues. The political system makes that impossible because such agreement does not convey any political power to any party. Division conveys marginal political power, so we get division and the fires of the culture wars are stoked specifically to feed this dynamic. The culture war is a forever war that is unsolvable and is not designed to ever be solved.

Explain how reforming a nation's culture is any more utopian than reforming its politics. Neither assumes or relies upon the notion that the perfect society is attainable.

You describe culture war as an endless conflict that divides and weakens us. And of course it is. That's why I'm saying the Left's culture war has to be countered by the Right, or by conservatives, whatever you'd like to call them. Are you saying we can stop the division by just letting the identity politics practitioners run roughshod over everyone in their path, while we focus on progress? OK, but you've declared that our politics makes agreement or compromise impossible. So what do you suggest? I know you said we need "progressive reform," but isn't that just a t-shirt slogan?

zahc,.I'm curious what you think "culture war" means. Do you assume I'm suggesting we outlaw vices, willy-nilly, or that I think law and politics is the chief instrument for bringing about a virtuous citizenry? Because no.

Also, "Your politics is a t-shirt slogan" would be a great t-shirt slogan.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #727 on: January 13, 2024, 08:42:03 AM »
"Explain how reforming a nation's culture is any more utopian than reforming its politics."

And that's the REAL reason why Taylor Swift has risen to such cultural and political dominance.

A cabal effort designed to reform our politics and culture.

You Swiftie, you.

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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #728 on: January 13, 2024, 08:57:29 AM »
And that's the REAL reason why Taylor Swift has risen to such cultural and political dominance.

I knew it.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #729 on: January 13, 2024, 10:40:43 AM »
Did I miss something?
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #730 on: January 13, 2024, 11:10:15 AM »
Did I miss something?

Only that Taylor Swift is behind MomCorp and will soon be taking over the world.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #731 on: January 13, 2024, 11:48:11 AM »
Only that Taylor Swift is behind MomCorp and will soon be taking over the world.

Had to Google. OK
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #732 on: January 13, 2024, 03:06:13 PM »
Did I miss something?

Don't you always.

Just a little carry over from a recent conversation about Taylor Swift and culture.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #733 on: January 13, 2024, 03:07:26 PM »
Only that Taylor Swift is behind MomCorp and will soon be taking over the world.

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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #734 on: January 14, 2024, 07:05:45 AM »
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #735 on: January 14, 2024, 07:59:17 AM »
Only that Taylor Swift is behind MomCorp and will soon be taking over the world.

Will be?  Thought it already happened.  I welcome our Swift overlord.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #736 on: January 14, 2024, 08:02:31 AM »
Will be?  Thought it already happened.  I welcome our Swift overlord.

She'll get tired of us after a week or two and then write a song about it.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #737 on: January 15, 2024, 09:49:48 AM »
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
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“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #739 on: April 28, 2024, 12:52:47 PM »
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
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“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #740 on: May 17, 2024, 09:43:21 AM »
And in this corner..... :rofl:  [popcorn]

AOC unleashes on MTG in fiery debate over her intelligence and fake eyelashes as all hell breaks loose in committee hearing to hold AG Merrick Garland in criminal contempt: 'Oh girl, baby, girl... don't even play!'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13428751/AOC-Marjorie-Taylor-Greene-Committee-Argument.html

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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #741 on: May 17, 2024, 01:07:38 PM »
Enter John Fetterman

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    In the past, I’ve described the U.S. House as The Jerry Springer Show.

    Today, I’m apologizing to The Jerry Springer Show. pic.twitter.com/y6wxLX5FIV
    — Senator John Fetterman (@SenFettermanPA) May 17, 2024

Then AOC tries to make it about racism and misogyny of course

https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/05/17/aoc-fetterman-n2396345
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #742 on: May 17, 2024, 03:33:13 PM »

"... and now I want to hand it over to the president of Ukraine who has as much courage as he has determination.  Ladies and gentlemen, President Putin."
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #744 on: May 17, 2024, 07:08:01 PM »
And in this corner..... :rofl:  [popcorn]

AOC unleashes on MTG in fiery debate over her intelligence and fake eyelashes as all hell breaks loose in committee hearing to hold AG Merrick Garland in criminal contempt: 'Oh girl, baby, girl... don't even play!'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13428751/AOC-Marjorie-Taylor-Greene-Committee-Argument.html



Not sure if it matters, but it was someone else that had "supposedly" fake eyelashes, and MTG criticized her for it. That's what set off AOC.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #745 on: May 17, 2024, 07:10:45 PM »
Not sure if it matters, but it was someone else that had "supposedly" fake eyelashes, and MTG criticized her for it. That's what set off AOC.

It's in the article
MTG started it then AOC jumped in being the "white savor" she is.

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Greene started the fight by making a snide personal comment about Rep. Jasmine Crockett of Texas, criticizing her 'fake eyelashes'. AOC then stepped in and the pair traded jibes before AOC said to Greene: 'Oh girl, baby girl... don't even play.'

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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #746 on: May 18, 2024, 01:13:22 AM »
MTG is an embarrassment to the Republican party.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #747 on: May 18, 2024, 01:50:02 AM »
MTG is an embarrassment to the Republican party.

I think you can throw Boebert into that briar-patch also. But, she has been quiet lately.

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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #748 on: May 18, 2024, 01:55:52 AM »
Personally, I think the best way for AOC and MTG to settle disputes would involve a bouncy house filled with jello.
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Re: The Bronx chick strikes out
« Reply #749 on: May 18, 2024, 08:29:36 AM »
MTG is an embarrassment to the Republican party.

I think you can throw Boebert into that briar-patch also. But, she has been quiet lately.

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