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Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« on: October 27, 2020, 06:29:40 PM »
We have The Ukraine stuff, the laptop with The Ukraine stuff as well as sex stuff, we have a former business associate revealing China stuff and from what I gather more is on the way.

The connections to Joe are obvious but not ironclad proof as of yet.

Just the whiff of impropriety disqualifies those on the right.

The leftists demand overwhelming evidence before an investigation even begins if it is a leftist.

The stories don't seem to be getting much traction.



 
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2020, 06:34:42 PM »
The stories don't seem to be getting much traction.


Of course not, social media, legacy media, big business, etc. all want him to win.

You forgot about Joe's daughter's diary:

https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-source-biden-daughters-diary-details-not-appropriate-showers-with-joe-as-child/
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2020, 07:18:20 PM »
Let's flip this around.  What news stories, obvious but not ironclad proof as of yet, about Trump would convince you not to vote for Trump?  If this was Ivanka's diary, would that convince you?

People's minds are made up.  No one is changing their opinion at this point.  It always was and always will be, "My guy isn't as bad as their guy."
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2020, 07:26:11 PM »
Let's flip this around.  What news stories, obvious but not ironclad proof as of yet, about Trump would convince you not to vote for Trump?  If this was Ivanka's diary, would that convince you?

People's minds are made up.  No one is changing their opinion at this point.  It always was and always will be, "My guy isn't as bad as their guy."

Unlike Trump's negative press covfefe, we haven't seen countless negative stories about Biden in the past 5 years, from prestige news outlets, that turn out to be just flat wrong. He hasn't been made into literally Hitler, literally Atilla, and literally Bull Connor, by the news and entertainment media, for no reason at all. Biden wasn't "impeached," without even being charged with a crime.

So to compare the two situations is a bit of a stretch.
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2020, 07:30:59 PM »

So to compare the two situations is a bit of a stretch.

No, it isn't a stretch.

People have picked their candidate and the only way someone won't vote for Biden, for example, is if Biden dies or is disqualified for running.  And in that case, only the people who actually pay attention to the news will change their voting strategy.

But, just for the fun of it, what if Fox News comes out with evidence that Trump is corrupt?  Or Trump has plans to become a democrat once elected and ban all guns.  Would you change your vote?

My opinion is that this close to election no one is changing their vote, no matter what.
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2020, 07:57:27 PM »
This all did break very late in the campaign season.

There better be even worse stuff that cannot be excused if they hope to force the media to cover it vs cover up.

Of course if treasonous influence peddling implicating a presidential candidate, combined with underage incestuous sexual relations and drug addiction doesn't rate coverage then ...  

Comparing this to anything Trump related thus far is silly.

We have video, audio and principles who've flipped all publicly available for confirmation of the story.
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2020, 08:21:39 PM »
No, it isn't a stretch.

People have picked their candidate and the only way someone won't vote for Biden, for example, is if Biden dies or is disqualified for running.  And in that case, only the people who actually pay attention to the news will change their voting strategy.

But, just for the fun of it, what if Fox News comes out with evidence that Trump is corrupt?  Or Trump has plans to become a democrat once elected and ban all guns.  Would you change your vote?

My opinion is that this close to election no one is changing their vote, no matter what.

Probably true, but there are a large number of reports that “can I change my vote” and “hunter Biden” are trending on google. May not be related or it might. To be truly effective this would have needed to come out sooner if true. There have been reports of corruption surrounding the Biden family for decades though, but as is usual these things seem to be ignored when it’s a Dem. This is not new, just the potential proof of documentation in the laptop is.

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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2020, 10:26:18 PM »
What about grainy photographs of Trump having sex with a 12 year old at Epstein's island with a statement from Ghislaine Maxwell saying she arraigned for the girl and took the pictures?
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2020, 11:28:02 PM »
I looked for dirt on Trump back in '16, particularly related to Epstein and have never heard that rumor.

There is incontrovertible proof that, at the minimum, Hunter Biden is a major national security risk if Joe becomes president.  
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2020, 01:15:25 AM »

But, just for the fun of it, what if Fox News comes out with evidence that Trump is corrupt?  Or Trump has plans to become a democrat once elected and ban all guns.  Would you change your vote?


I thought I already explained that. A thousand bits of fake news have been leveled against Trump, only to be thoroughly discredited. I would be stupid to fall for the latest one that just happens to land just before election day.

With Biden, almost the opposite is true.

charby, if such photos emerged, I suppose I may not vote for either of them. On the other hand, photoshop and deep fakes.
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2020, 01:33:32 AM »

I thought I already explained that. A thousand bits of fake news have been leveled against Trump, only to be thoroughly discredited. I would be stupid to fall for the latest one that just happens to land just before election day.

With Biden, almost the opposite is true.


^^^ This.

All this Biden dirt is a classic case of "Too little, too late." It seems like half the country has already voted, and everybody else is so sick of the campaigns that nobody is paying any attention. This Biden dirt needed to have been publicized in August and September, not now.
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2020, 08:09:22 AM »
^^^ This.

All this Biden dirt is a classic case of "Too little, too late." It seems like half the country has already voted, and everybody else is so sick of the campaigns that nobody is paying any attention. This Biden dirt needed to have been publicized in August and September, not now.

You have to consider most Americans seem have the memory of a goldfish
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2020, 09:23:21 AM »
Many of the comments in this thread illustrate the principle that once your mind is made up, new evidence will not easily change it.
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2020, 09:43:19 AM »
My biggest concern about the current an incoming Trump administration is actually Jared Kushner.

If something fishy is going on or gets outed I have a sinking feeling he will be the one hip deep in questionable dealings.

There is a behind the scenes "war" going on between the rich and powerful globalists. Trump is the avatar of one group and the Dems and Rinos the representatives of another.

There are no good guys, just guys who will interfere with your lives more, or guys who will interfere less.

Nationalist leanings vs globalist leanings seem to be the major fault line.

All the sicko perversions the globalists push are designed to destroy the ties that bind, destroy the culture, destroy the foundation upon which nations are built.

The Bidens are crony globalists of the first magnitude.


 

 
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2020, 09:51:38 AM »


Nationalist leanings vs globalist leanings seem to be the major fault line.

All the sicko perversions the globalists push are designed to destroy the ties that bind, destroy the culture, destroy the foundation upon which nations are built.

The Bidens are crony globalists of the first magnitude.

 

Their idea world model is something along the lines of Yugoslavia and the USSR and I think we all know how they turned out
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2020, 09:52:38 AM »
Many of the comments in this thread illustrate the principle that once your mind is made up, new evidence will not easily change it.

Agreed, especially this close to the election.

I also think that the "20% of voters are undecided" is just flat out wrong.  My guess is that 20% doesn't want to answer the polling questions.  
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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2020, 09:54:05 AM »
Agreed, especially this close to the election.

I also think that the "20% of voters are undecided" is just flat out wrong.  My guess is that 20% doesn't want to answer the polling questions.  

I would say that 80-90% of conservatives refuse to answer polls while 80-90% of liberals are more than happy to.
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2020, 09:55:13 AM »
Many of the comments in this thread illustrate the principle that once your mind is made up, new evidence will not easily change it.

Why don't you enlighten us and elaborate?
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2020, 10:06:49 AM »
You have to consider most Americans seem have the memory of a goldfish

I agree with this and that is probably why it was released when it was. 
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2020, 10:16:36 AM »
What about grainy photographs of Trump having sex with a 12 year old at Epstein's island with a statement from Ghislaine Maxwell saying she arraigned for the girl and took the pictures?
I would say that would be a put up or shut up thing.  Show the evidence or it didn't happen. 
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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2020, 10:18:49 AM »
I agree with this and that is probably why it was released when it was. 
Part of the problem is a whole lot of people don't follow politics except right before the election.  You want to have the story hit at a time when everyone is paying attention, otherwise it might pass out of the news cycle and no one thinks about it come time to vote.  Hard to pin that timing down when voting starts so early.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2020, 10:26:14 AM »
I would say that would be a put up or shut up thing.  Show the evidence or it didn't happen. 


The grainy picture and statement from Ghislaine would be the evidence. Kind of like a statement from a blind computer repair guy and grainy pictures of Hunter and a crack pipe.
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2020, 10:33:26 AM »
Kind of like a statement from a blind computer repair guy and grainy pictures of Hunter and a crack pipe.

Don't forget Rudy! The overall credibility of the story is not helped by his involvement, he's been off his rocker for awhile now.
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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2020, 10:36:02 AM »
You have to consider most Americans seem have the memory of a goldfish

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Re: Hunter & Joe Biden corruption scandal
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2020, 10:38:09 AM »
The grainy picture and statement from Ghislaine would be the evidence. Kind of like a statement from a blind computer repair guy and grainy pictures of Hunter and a crack pipe.


You deny that the photos are Hunter?

Nobody else has denied the photos are Hunter.

You deny the emails are from Hunter?

Nobody else denies the emails are from Hunter.

You deny the first person account of the China deal?

Nobody in the campaign denies the Bidens China deal.

Sorry Charby, but there is a mountain more evidence against the Bidens than an internet rumor, a grainy photo and a human traffickers accusation.

 
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