California Bans . . . Small Engines?!?!

[230RN]

Why would they care? They hate all blue collar/farmers.

Guys remember it’s not about logic in CA it’s about emotional autistic screeching. Y’all make the mistake of trying to apply logic to that kind of insanity.

QFT

Yes, and as said before, "Ideology Rules."

It is almost impossible to reason a person out of a position they did not reason themselves into.

Bad engine, bad engine.  Must punish.

Terry, 230RN

[dogmush]

I would be running some kind of load on to make sure it does more than start and run.

My three phase ran great for years until on day voltage went wonky. Low voltage in one leg and really high on another.

Every 6 months or so I have a project come up that requires me to cut, or un-cut something outside my shop, so the generator runs either a small air compressor and plasma cutter (cut) or my MIG (uncut).  I figure that's enough testing to be storm ready,

[Doggy Daddy]

I didn't know that - the times I've been to Kali, I always arrived & departed via air, never by road.

It's an agriculture thang.

https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/plant/pe/ExteriorExclusion/borders.html

California’s Border Protection Stations (BPS) are the first line of defense in our pest exclusion efforts. At these stations, vehicles are inspected for commodities infested with invasive species. California established its first agricultural inspection stations in the early 1920s. Today there are 16 of these facilities located on the major highways entering the State (see interactive map). At these stations, vehicles and commodities are checked to ensure they are pest free and meet all regulatory requirements.

[MechAg94]

I saw another Instagram post:  "MOW LAWN LABE"

 

[Cliffh]

I like my 20v Kobalt 14" chainsaw & tree limber.  Two batteries last as long as I do.  Had an oak fall in the front yard, I cut most of it myself but there was one spot where a mistake could have killed me.  Called in the pros.  He got his chainsaw pinched, borrowed my cordless to get it out.  I do use a couple gas powered for the larger stuff.

Just before reading this thread I gave the generator it's monthly running.  I hook up a heat lamp for a load.

But there's no way in hell I could do all the yard work with cordless or even corded tools.  Five acres is a bit too far to run an extension cord, and I doubt anything would work well enough off a portable solar panel setup.

ETA:  I run the gas out of the carb when shutting down.  Turn off the fuel valve, run it until it starts to sputter, then use the choke until it dies.  Figure it helps keep the carb clean.

[Doggy Daddy]

[tokugawa]

Good way to make 100,000 hard working Mexican landscapers pissed off.

[MechAg94]

Thinking about this.  Lawn care contractors would need to either carry a bunch of batteries or have some sort of battery bank on their trailer to charge spare batteries.  I haven't seen battery banks like that, but I figure they could be made. 
That still doesn't replace everything, just a select few devices.

[WLJ]

Good way to make 100,000 hard working Mexican landscapers pissed off.

Or depended on government handouts

[Boomhauer]

Thinking about this.  Lawn care contractors would need to either carry a bunch of batteries or have some sort of battery bank on their trailer to charge spare batteries.  I haven't seen battery banks like that, but I figure they could be made. 
That still doesn't replace everything, just a select few devices.

There are battery charger banks and power sources but not the kind that’s going to last a 10 hour day powering multiple mowers, weed eaters, hedge trimmers,  pole saws, etc

And pro grade battery tools are big $$$.

[Ben]

There are battery charger banks and power sources but not the kind that’s going to last a 10 hour day powering multiple mowers, weed eaters, hedge trimmers,  pole saws, etc

And pro grade battery tools are big $$$.

Yeah, last year I bought the Stihl pro pole saw for ~$600 because the battery one was close to $1000 for saw + battery. Even my Stihl dealer told me their battery stuff is ridiculously priced.

[MillCreek]

I am now buying the third-party Ryobi 18 and 40 volt batteries.  They seem to last as long and work as well and are somewhat cheaper than the name brand. 

[Jim147]

California is working on banning all gas appliances also. That will help the crap grid when everyone comes home and turns on the oven after plugging in the car.

[Northwoods]

They can have my gas range when the pry it from my cold, dead, pudgy fingers.

[WLJ]

They can have my gas range when the pry it from my cold, dead, pudgy fingers.

They have nukes

[Bogie]

Does CA ban idling of commercial vehicles, like some of the yankee states do? Can't run the truck AC, etc...
 
I envision the landscapers, etc., using the vehicles for generators. Gonna be a LOT of add-on alternators, or PTO mods... A regular alternator can't run that big inverter All Day Long...
 
At least until the vehicles all have to run on AA cells...

[MechAg94]

They have nukes

Now that would be an interesting idea for a power supply.  Do they make those small enough to fit in the back of a truck? 

Or maybe the CA capital building needs a back up generator....       

[MillCreek]

Now that would be an interesting idea for a power supply.  Do they make those small enough to fit in the back of a truck? 

Or maybe the CA capital building needs a back up generator....       

They are working on it. I read this article just last night:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42818/this-alaskan-air-base-will-host-an-experimental-mini-nuclear-reactor

[MechAg94]

They are working on it. I read this article just last night:
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42818/this-alaskan-air-base-will-host-an-experimental-mini-nuclear-reactor

Cool. 

Gotta be careful.  Hollywood has taught me that all one has to do is set it to overload and it will destroy the whole base. 

[Boomhauer]

Does CA ban idling of commercial vehicles, like some of the yankee states do? Can't run the truck AC, etc...
 
I envision the landscapers, etc., using the vehicles for generators. Gonna be a LOT of add-on alternators, or PTO mods... A regular alternator can't run that big inverter All Day Long...
 
At least until the vehicles all have to run on AA cells...

Yes they ban idling for more than five minutes. Also idling absolutely murders gas engines and puts a lot of wear and tear on diesels, especially modern emissions diesels. Our service trucks went from PTO air compressors to Miller Enpaks- they supply air, 120V electrical, crane hydraulic power, and mig or stick weld power from a small diesel plumbed to draw fuel from the truck fuel tanks.

[WLJ]

Monkey see monkey do

State Reps. Jerry Newton and Heather Edelson, members of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, introduced legislation on Monday that would block the sale of common landscaping appliances like lawn mowers and chainsaws as well ice resurfacing machines such as Zambonis, requiring that only electric battery versions be sold in the state starting Jan. 1, 2025.

The ban on lawn and garden equipment would include any machine that uses "a spark ignition engine rated at or below 19 kilowatts or 25 gross horsepower." Commonly used landscaping tools like lawn mowers, leaf blowers, hedge clippers, chainsaws, lawn edgers, string trimmers and brush cutters would all be prohibited by that definition.

And just like CA they made sure to hamstring electricity production first.

The measure follows a Democrat-backed clean energy bill signed into law by Gov. Tim Walz that requires electricity production be 80% carbon-free by 2030 and 100% by 2040. Republicans labeled it the "blackout bill."

Minnesota Democrat lawmakers push ban on gas-powered lawn mowers, chainsaws to curb 'climate pollution'
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/minnesota-democrat-lawmakers-push-ban-gas-powered-lawn-mowers-chainsaws-curb-climate-pollution

[zahc]

California energy policy seems to be becoming the American Germany.

[HankB]

Certain small tools can be made, well, serviceable with batteries. Hedge trimmers - yep. Cordless drills and screwdrivers - sure. Lawnmowers? Borderline, depending on yard size.

Generators? Maybe our leaders will subsidize plug-in (corded) generators - use a battery to start it initially, and then just plug its cord into the output to keep it running. Science!!!

But even corded pressure washers are only suitable for relatively light work like washing a car or patio furniture, you really don't want to clean a large dirty driveway or patio with anything less than roughly a 3000 PSI gas pressure washer with a surface cleaning attachment - electric just won't cut it.

Cool. 

Gotta be careful.  Hollywood has taught me that all one has to do is set it to overload and it will destroy the whole base. 

If you're worried about nuke plants, you should read the old H. Beam Piper short story, Day of the Moron.    https://www.gutenberg.org/files/18949/18949-h/18949-h.htm

[Ben]

Generators? Maybe our leaders will subsidize plug-in (corded) generators - use a battery to start it initially, and then just plug its cord into the output to keep it running. Science!!!

https://youtu.be/yxkb2dt_nBw

[MechAg94]

https://youtu.be/yxkb2dt_nBw

Spare fuel cans are so much easier to haul around and refueling is much faster.