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Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« on: November 15, 2021, 01:54:54 PM »
GOP "too dangerous" to run Congress. I think it's going to get even more fun as their polling numbers continue to tank...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-gop-too-dangerous-congress-midterm-pitch-voters

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2021, 02:00:38 PM »
Didn't they tried that tack in Virginia?
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2021, 02:06:46 PM »
Not really.

They tried TRUMP! THE REPUBLICANS ARE TRUMP! ALL TRUMP ALL THE TIME! TTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!

Worked really well for them.

This note from the DCCC appears to have learned something from that debacle. Trump isn't mentioned once in it.

Now they're just painting with the widest possible brush.

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2021, 02:09:09 PM »
Didn't one or two of them also double down on schools deciding what is best for your children and the hell with what parents think?  I heard someone suggesting that issue was a big part of the swing in voting.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2021, 02:10:46 PM »
As far as the left and dems are concerned GOP = Trump.
Yes we know different but I like to think CNN & MSNBC don't tell us what to think here.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2021, 02:26:27 PM »
Didn't one or two of them also double down on schools deciding what is best for your children and the hell with what parents think?  I heard someone suggesting that issue was a big part of the swing in voting.

yes, McAuliffe pretty much doubled down on that, and that turned a LOT of parents against him.

But that happened in September at the last debate.

At that moment Youngkin was still a point or two behind and IIRC it had been pretty stagnant for a few weeks.

That means that McAuliffe, who had been playing the Trump card the whole race to that point, had stalled with that messaging and was, in fact, losing ground on that message. Polling after the election pretty much showed that no, people were no longer recoiling in horror at the spectre of Trump because, well, he's no longer in office...

But when Youngkin took McAuliffe's statement on parents should get no say in what their kids are taught... well, we all know how that ended up.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2021, 08:35:49 PM »
Dangerous? Be careful...
 
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2021, 09:33:22 PM »
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Holy hell. It's like giving a loaded gun to a chimpanzee...

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the last thing you need is rabies. You're already angry enough as it is.

OTOH, there wouldn't be a tweeker left in Georgia...

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2021, 09:40:35 PM »
This dumb *expletive deleted*ck lol

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-orourke-texas-governor-running

I hope he waste millions of Bezos/Soros/Bloomberg dollars. Not sure they'd back him at this point, though.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2021, 11:42:57 PM »
I hope he waste millions of Bezos/Soros/Bloomberg dollars. Not sure they'd back him at this point, though.

The next Governor race in Texas might be more interesting than I want it to be.  Gov. Abbott hasn't been bad, but he wasn't great and kept COVID restrictions around just a bit too long.  The joke is to look at what Desantis does and Abbott will do it 3 weeks later after running it through focus groups.  I hear that Allen West was thinking of running against him, but he just strikes me as Mr. Establishment and hasn't been elected to anything in years.  Not sure who else is running, but some may think Abbott is vulnerable.  Once all that is done, Beto is an after thought.  I can't see how his antics while running for President will help him here in Texas.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2021, 12:22:11 PM »
. . . Once all that is done, Beto is an after thought.  I can't see how his antics while running for President will help him here in Texas.
Maybe he thinks that despite Texas' best efforts, the Feds will enable voting by illegals in the next election . . . combined with the votes of Kali transplants, that might be a problem for the Lone Star State.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2021, 04:48:08 PM »
Are they worried? Maybe

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2021, 05:44:33 PM »
I hate to get overconfident.  It is still nearly a year away. 
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2021, 06:18:27 PM »
I hate to get overconfident.  It is still nearly a year away.

No real reason to expect that the Democrat vote fraud machine will be any less effective for the mid-terms.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2021, 01:23:31 AM »
No real reason to expect that the Democrat vote fraud machine will be any less effective for the mid-terms.


"But there's no proof of voter fraud."

To which I apply the following logic

There is no proof without evidence.
There is no evidence without investigation.
There is no investigation without suspicion.
But suspicion without proof is paranoid.

So much for the suspicion.  Accusation of "paranoia" is a very effective way of stifling things. They sure wrapped that up in a nice little package.

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2021, 08:00:54 AM »
Biden using the "party of 'No' " line to dig at Republicans for 2022. The same guy who said "no" by reversing everything Republicans did from 2016-2020 with the most EOs in the history of EOs.

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"I want to tell my Republican friends: Get ready, pal. You’re in for a problem," Biden said, explaining that Republicans are "against everything" and challenging the crowd to name something the GOP is "for."

Also, he's "The perfect President".

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-to-dnc-holiday-party-were-going-to-win-in-2022

I also notice these things were said at a ginormous holiday party while they are still telling regular people to avoid holiday gatherings.

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2021, 09:32:17 AM »
Look, you stupid bastard, we keep telling you that those rules only apply to you little people, not we woke masters!

Stop whining, put on your mask, and sit alone in your house or you might get a visit from the IRS!
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2021, 09:41:40 AM »
There is no proof without evidence.
There is no evidence without investigation.
There is no investigation without suspicion.
But suspicion without proof is paranoid.
Voter fraud? Definitely.
Massive fraud that should have invalidated results? Still waiting on that evidence.
There have been investigations and audits though.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2021, 06:27:38 PM »
That moving to another country thing has been going on for a long time. They never seem to do it. Either they must be figuring out that the grass isn’t any greener or discovering it isn’t that easy to emigrate to another country. Most countries are much more strict about immigration than the US is, even most of the shithole ones.

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2021, 12:54:21 PM »
I hate to get my hopes up but it appears things are shifting hard in the R's favor.
What worriers me though is what the dems could do in the meantime as a scorched earth policy.
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2022, 10:53:25 AM »
I hate to get my hopes up but it appears things are shifting hard in the R's favor.
What worriers me thought is what the dems could do in the meantime as a scorched earth policy.

Aren't all their policies scorched earth policies?
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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2022, 10:57:28 AM »
I hate to get my hopes up but it appears things are shifting hard in the R's favor.
What worriers me thought is what the dems could do in the meantime as a scorched earth policy.

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2022, 12:12:54 PM »
The Republicans will probably win a bunch of seats.  They will proceed to do nothing conservative, just like they have done every other time this has happened in my recollection.

I have been told Newt Gingrich's congress was different, but I can't recall that.

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Re: Dems look to be getting extra desperate...
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2022, 12:50:33 PM »
The Republicans will probably win a bunch of seats.  They will proceed to do nothing conservative, just like they have done every other time this has happened in my recollection.

I have been told Newt Gingrich's congress was different, but I can't recall that.
I don't know how much different it was.  Mainly it was the last Congress that came real close to balancing the budget.  Then the media placed a giant target on his back and did negative stories day after day.  The Republicans did like they always do and thought getting rid of Newt would make the media be friends with them again.  Newt was not perfect, but he was better than a lot of others.  Of course, we also had Dick Armey and Phil Graham and a host of others in leadership positions, many of which retired around 2000.  Through the 2000's, the Republicans sort of abandoned the "Limited Govt" principle completely. 
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