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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3275 on: December 30, 2024, 06:23:20 PM »
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3276 on: December 30, 2024, 06:56:40 PM »
This was JFK's second PT boat, extra guns and armor, no torpedoes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrol_torpedo_boat_PT-59

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3277 on: December 30, 2024, 07:08:02 PM »
Oh hell, I know we do stuff like that...

B-25s in the South Pacific with as many as 18 .50 BMGs, the Maxon Quad Mount, but the Russians just seem to take it to another level...


My high school principal flew B25s in the Pacific during WW2 with a nose mounted 75mm cannon.  He said it was quite a jolt when fired.

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― George Orwell, 1984

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3279 on: December 31, 2024, 07:08:06 AM »



Looks like a Soviet era BKA 1125 riverine monitor. The main turret was essentially a T-34 turret with the same 76mm gun. Later in the war, when the main gun on the T-34 was upped to 85mm, new monitors also got the 85mm gun.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3280 on: January 01, 2025, 03:29:33 PM »
$2.5 billion more to Ukraine for weapons, plus another $3.4 billion to pay for Ukrainian government workers, school employees, healthcare workers, and first responders.

https://twitchy.com/dougp/2025/01/01/us-providing-37-billion-for-first-responder-teacher-and-healthcare-worker-salaries-not-here-n2405989
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3281 on: January 01, 2025, 03:41:28 PM »
$2.5 billion more to Ukraine for weapons, plus another $3.4 billion to pay for Ukrainian government workers, school employees, healthcare workers, and first responders.

https://twitchy.com/dougp/2025/01/01/us-providing-37-billion-for-first-responder-teacher-and-healthcare-worker-salaries-not-here-n2405989


How much aid has gone to Helene victims?
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3282 on: January 01, 2025, 04:10:55 PM »
How much aid has gone to Helene victims?

About 37 cents.
If there really was intelligent life on other planets, we'd be sending them foreign aid.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3283 on: January 01, 2025, 04:15:12 PM »

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3284 on: January 01, 2025, 04:28:41 PM »

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3285 on: January 01, 2025, 04:47:26 PM »
With 29% interest

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If there really was intelligent life on other planets, we'd be sending them foreign aid.

Conservatives see George Orwell's "1984" as a cautionary tale.  Progressives view it as a "how to" manual.

My wife often says to me, "You are evil and must be destroyed." She may be right.

Liberals believe one should never let reason, logic and facts get in the way of a good emotional argument.

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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3286 on: January 01, 2025, 09:47:08 PM »

Looks like a Soviet era BKA 1125 riverine monitor. The main turret was essentially a T-34 turret with the same 76mm gun. Later in the war, when the main gun on the T-34 was upped to 85mm, new monitors also got the 85mm gun.
The only reason I knew about that is Drachinifel has a video on them. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OWNWgc-Obc
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Re: War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....
« Reply #3287 on: January 02, 2025, 07:59:47 AM »
I didn't know that Drach had a video on them. Thanks!

Only reason I knew about them is many years ago I saw a show, hosted by Burt Lancaster, called "The Forgotten War." Something like a 20-part (20 hours) series from the late 1970s about the Soviet Union's WW II experiences. One of the episodes was on the naval war and it had some fantastic film of river monitor operations.

Here's a really good page on the variations on the Soviet river monitors: https://naval-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/riverine-gunboats-monitors.php
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