Oregon State Police slow walking background checks for firearms

[MillCreek]

State representatives office called me back.  Exchanged some information and they will be contacting the OSP and a follow up with myself.

Learned from them this "liability" thing is the insurance companies adding a stipulation that gun stores do not exercise the 3 day legal protection.  Questionable legality, certainly immoral and unethical.

So I was correct on the insurance issue.

[JTHunter]

Are they still?  Word I saw was that that was fixed.

It is better than it was 2-3 years ago but they are STILL taking longer than they are allowed (30 bus. days) for first time applicants.

[kgbsquirrel]

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[RoadKingLarry]

Dang.
That kind of crap makes me truly appreciate living in a (mostly) free state.
Usually takes me longer to fill out my permission request than it does for the dealer to run it and get approval back.
No such infringement attached to private transfers.

Last private purchase I made was actually at my hometown gun store. I had let the owner know I was looking for a Blackhawk in .45 Colt. After almost 2 years of looking some fellow came in looking to sell an excellent condition convertible .45 w/ 5.5" barrel. (Came with 2 boxes of Hornady XTP ammo and 2 extra grips) Gun store called me and 30 minutes later I was home with my "new" gun. $800 for the gun and $50 for the store owner as a finder fee.

[kgbsquirrel]

The gun store is closed Sunday and Monday so no more position updates until Tuesday.

[kgbsquirrel]

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[kgbsquirrel]

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[MechAg94]

I ordered a rifle last weekend.  It arrived at my dealer today.  I have it in my house now. 

My God help us if Texas ever turns blue. 

[kgbsquirrel]

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[Boomhauer]

I ordered a rifle last weekend.  It arrived at my dealer today.  I have it in my house now. 

My God help us if Texas ever turns blue. 

With the extremely heavy influx of Californians into the big cities how likely do you think it is?

[kgbsquirrel]

And OSP finally returned an answer: delayed, no reason or timeliness given.

[MechAg94]

With the extremely heavy influx of Californians into the big cities how likely do you think it is?

I have heard people say in the past that the Californians moving to Texas run a slight majority toward Not voting Democrat.  The same survey said most of the new Democrats in Texas were 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanic immigrants.  That was a few years back so things might have changed. 

Mainly, I don't know.  We will see how this election looks.  With the Trump factor in the picture less, it will be interesting how this election turns out.  I have heard Hispanics have been leaving the Democrat umbrella lately and Texas still held a slim R majority in 2020.  X factor is Beto and Democrats are spending a great deal of money, but they have done that before. 

[kgbsquirrel]

Called the challenge line yesterday st 1100 and left my information per the instructions.  No response yet and still flagged as delayed.

[kgbsquirrel]

Still no reply from the phone message so now I've sent an email as well.  Consider this a log entry for any future subpoenas.

[Northwoods]

Remind me why you can’t just get the gun?  At least it used to be that a delayed NICS check allowed you to take possession after something like 3 or 5 days if there simply no response.  Is it an Oregon law, insurance company restrictions, or what?

[Perd Hapley]

Remind me why you can’t just get the gun?  At least it used to be that a delayed NICS check allowed you to take possession after something like 3 or 5 days if there simply no response.  Is it an Oregon law, insurance company restrictions, or what?

IICR, it was store policy.

[kgbsquirrel]

Day 26 and still no gun.  Also radio silence from the OSP.

[kgbsquirrel]

IICR, it was store policy.

I keep hearing three stories: the OSP tells them they'll be "liable", the ATF insinuates they will find a reason to revoke their FFL, and the insurance company adding a stipulation.

Wouldn't surprise me if all three are true as there really is a clear effort to destroy civil rights.

[kgbsquirrel]

And another email (third attempt at contact) sent to the Oregon State Police, and a second call to my state representative's office.

Welcome to *expletive deleted*ing democracy where inalienable rights that shall not be infringed are really just privileges of the state.

[Blakenzy]

This is what "reasonable" anti-gun laws do in practice, they never sound too troublesome on paper. If you're not a criminal what do you have to fear?

Just wait till they defund the bureaucracy in charge of processing the background checks 

[kgbsquirrel]

This is what "reasonable" anti-gun laws do in practice, they never sound too troublesome on paper. If you're not a criminal what do you have to fear?

Just wait till they defund the bureaucracy in charge of processing the background checks 

Operating exactly as intended.

[Ben]

Sorry kgb - more bad news:

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/10/oregon-gun-control-measure-114-attracts-national-attention-as-one-of-strictest-in-us.html

Ten years ago you couldn't have convinced me that Oregon would be worse than California, but they are really upping their game in the Portland metro.

[WLJ]

Sorry kgb - more bad news:

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/10/oregon-gun-control-measure-114-attracts-national-attention-as-one-of-strictest-in-us.html

Ten years ago you couldn't have convinced me that Oregon would be worse than California, but they are really upping their game in the Portland metro.

From article

Under Measure 114, anyone who wants to buy a gun would have to obtain a permit, pay an anticipated fee of $65, complete an approved firearms safety course at their own expense, submit a photo ID, be fingerprinted and pass a criminal background check.

I say someone in OR should propose a bill that says

anyone who wants to vote would have to obtain a permit, pay an anticipated fee of $65, complete an approved history course at their own expense, submit a photo ID, be fingerprinted and pass a criminal background check.

Oh how they would howl

[MillCreek]

   If Oregon passes this, look for something similar in Washington to follow.

[Ben]

  If Oregon passes this, look for something similar in Washington to follow.

I'm wondering what it will mean for people who pass through Oregon. I have a non-resident permit. I'll assume at the very least, I'll need to have a couple of "Oregon magazines" and then remember to use them when I go there. I'll probably need to pick an "Oregon gun" as well, because I'm not buying a bunch of ten round magazines just to comply with their stupid law. I might just need to make a 1911 an "Oregon gun" the way I've made a 1911 my "California gun" when I've had to go there.