Author Topic: China quarantines an entire city (Read 23868 times)

K Frame · « **Reply #175 on:** February 13, 2020, 01:08:31 PM »

Here's an on point article describing the suspect nature of Chinese reporting of Corona virus.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/13/white-house-does-not-have-high-confidence-in-chinas-coronavirus-information-official-says.html

K Frame · « **Reply #176 on:** February 13, 2020, 01:12:47 PM »

And this is a really interesting article on the mathematics of communicability.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/04/researchers-say-the-coronavirus-may-be-more-contagious-than-current-data-shows.html

Take a look at how freaking communicable measles is... Jesus!

makattak · « **Reply #177 on:** February 13, 2020, 01:42:39 PM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on February 13, 2020, 01:12:47 PM

Take a look at how freaking communicable measles is... !

Well, that's why we give people autis....errr... uh... vaccinate people for it!

Seriously, it's a frighteningly scary disease. 400-500 children a year died from it before the vaccine (in the U.S. alone!) and that was with quarantine protocols being used.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/life-before-and-after-the-measles-vaccine#Fighting-the-anti-vaccination-movement

K Frame · « **Reply #178 on:** February 13, 2020, 02:09:15 PM »

"Well, that's why we give people autis....errr... uh... vaccinate people for it!"

One of my coworkers has a severely autistic son.

I mentioned that I'd gotten the first of the two Shingles vaccine shots. You could tell he wasn't pleased with me, but at least he didn't go out of his way to "educate" me on the error of my ways.

K Frame · « **Reply #179 on:** February 13, 2020, 02:14:09 PM »

Interesting article. I actually thought more people died of measles in its pre-vaccination period.

cordex · « **Reply #180 on:** February 13, 2020, 03:30:28 PM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on February 13, 2020, 12:40:36 PM

And who's to say that isn't the exact same way Corona is killing its victims?

Old man Wu got himself Corona virus and dies. But he was also struggling with chronic emphysema. OMG! CORONA!

Little girl Lin contracts Corona virus and dies. But she as also struggling mightily with leukemia. OMG! CORONA!

The flu comparison is being made because it's directly on point. Corona and flu have very similar mechanisms and actions in the body, and both lead to largely the same symptoms and, eventually, cause of death.

That Chinese reaction tho.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #181 on:** February 13, 2020, 03:41:33 PM »

Move to North Korea and you'll be safe. They haven't had a single case of COVID-19, honest.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/north-korea-clearly-lying-coronavirus-cases-expert

K Frame · « **Reply #182 on:** February 13, 2020, 09:33:04 PM »

Hey! Everyone knows you can trust the Norks!

They're stand up guys!

That is, when they're not starving too much and have the energy to stand...

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WLJ · « **Reply #183 on:** February 14, 2020, 08:14:21 AM »

Just don't try to take their posters and you'll be fine

brimic · « **Reply #184 on:** February 14, 2020, 08:26:31 AM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on February 13, 2020, 09:33:04 PM

Hey! Everyone knows you can trust the Norks!

They're stand up guys!

That is, when they're not starving too much and have the energy to stand...

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We should send Dennis Rodman back there to learn of their secrets to being disease free.

K Frame · « **Reply #185 on:** February 14, 2020, 09:09:42 AM »

And another article about the Norks and Corona...

https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-reportedly-spread-north-korea-163908984.html

brimic · « **Reply #186 on:** February 14, 2020, 09:27:10 AM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on February 13, 2020, 02:09:15 PM

"Well, that's why we give people autis....errr... uh... vaccinate people for it!"

One of my coworkers has a severely autistic son.

I mentioned that I'd gotten the first of the two Shingles vaccine shots. You could tell he wasn't pleased with me, but at least he didn't go out of his way to "educate" me on the error of my ways.

Start slowly acting more and more autistic while at work...

K Frame · « **Reply #187 on:** February 14, 2020, 09:34:48 AM »

Quote from: brimic on February 14, 2020, 09:27:10 AM

Start slowly acting more and more autistic while at work...

Who needs to act?

From what I've overheard him telling a coworker who sits next to him, the son is apparently prone to bouts of violence and is completely nonverbal.

brimic · « **Reply #188 on:** February 14, 2020, 09:37:16 AM »

Quote from: Mike Irwin on February 14, 2020, 09:34:48 AM

Who needs to act?

From what I've overheard him telling a coworker who sits next to him, the son is apparently prone to bouts of violence and is completely nonverbal.

So you are there already?
That almost describes me at work before I get my requisite coffee in me.

K Frame · « **Reply #189 on:** February 14, 2020, 09:44:25 AM »

My non-verbal violence is a choice, but sure, whatever.

bedlamite · « **Reply #190 on:** February 14, 2020, 12:09:32 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0cml7ny6NI

brimic · « **Reply #191 on:** February 14, 2020, 01:07:19 PM »

https://twitter.com/drericding/status/1228346158126419968?s=21

brimic · « **Reply #192 on:** February 14, 2020, 02:29:17 PM »

Quote from: bedlamite on February 14, 2020, 12:09:32 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0cml7ny6NI

That's not quite the zombie apocalypse that we wanted, but its the zombie apocalypse that we got.

lupinus · « **Reply #193 on:** February 14, 2020, 05:30:13 PM »

So which essential oil should I be buying stock in?

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French G. · « **Reply #194 on:** February 14, 2020, 08:05:02 PM »

Today's amusement is that everyone on NPR seemed to misspeak, calling it Corvid-19. Pretty sure if the jays, crows, and ravens cooked something up for us it would be far deadlier.

brimic · « **Reply #195 on:** February 16, 2020, 09:25:22 PM »

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.12.20022434v1

The bad news is that there are nearly an estimated 1 million infected, the good news is that it might be a lot less fatal than expected.

cordex · « **Reply #196 on:** February 18, 2020, 11:41:21 AM »

Quote from: makattak on February 13, 2020, 09:31:23 AM

For those with the opinion that this is "TIKIWIKI~!~!!!!@", we have a cruise ship quarantined in the Bay of Japan which will provide excellent data on the virulence and morbidity associated with this coronavirus.

We don't have to trust China's numbers, we have an experiment running in a trustworthy country right now.

The quarantine efforts on that ship failed:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/02/17/coronavirus-official-explains-diamond-princess-cruise-quarantine-fail/4785290002/

I don't think it has shown to be particularly lethal to infected people on that ship, however.

brimic · « **Reply #197 on:** February 18, 2020, 11:49:49 AM »

Quote from: cordex on February 18, 2020, 11:41:21 AM

The quarantine efforts on that ship failed:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2020/02/17/coronavirus-official-explains-diamond-princess-cruise-quarantine-fail/4785290002/

I don't think it has shown to be particularly lethal to infected people on that ship, however.

Yeah, that wasn't an ordinary failure, it was an epic failure. I watched a yootoob video of a Japanese infectious disease expert's brief trip aboard the ship this morning- he described it as there being no red or green zones, infected moved about and mingled with uninfected, so there was no quarantine of the passengers from eachother. He went on to say that he's responded to ebola and SARS outbreaks in the past and had no fear of contracting the diseases due to the protocol in place, but was terrified of what he saw in the ship.
Then they sent a whole lot of infected people into the wild, on planes and buses, mixed with people who weren't infected.

We may never know the actual lethality of the disease from the ship- the Americans on board who were infected were whisked away, ostensibly into quarantine on CONUS. We might want to ask ourselves- why would they do this, unless A) the disease isn't very serious or B) the disease is extremely serious

K Frame · « **Reply #198 on:** February 18, 2020, 12:24:19 PM »

"We may never know the actual lethality of the disease from the ship- the Americans on board who were infected were whisked away, ostensibly into quarantine on CONUS. We might want to ask ourselves- why would they do this, unless A) the disease isn't very serious or B) the disease is extremely serious."

Or C... it's just serious enough...

Apparently there's been a bunch of tensions between the Japanese and Americans over the handling of the procedures on the ship and that's the big driving factor in why they're pulling the Americans off.

brimic · « **Reply #199 on:** February 18, 2020, 12:35:38 PM »

Found the video. What he is describing is a contagion nightmare caused by a bureaucratic nightmare.

https://twitter.com/snake_eyes11_11/status/1229793713515200513?s=21

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