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The Roundtable / Re: How was your flight?
« Last post by Ben on May 21, 2024, 02:58:22 PM »
God those were fun. Dilbert Dunker, then the helo dunker. Have a seat, wait till you hit the water and are completely upside down before starting egress. What, you want to see, that isn't possible because you will be wearing goggles but when you can finally see blow some bubbles and follow them to the surface. We also did open ocean stuff, float, swim, get picked up by helo. That was always a fun few days going to DWEST (Deep Water Environment Survival Training). I never take off my seat belt unless I am getting out of my seat.

bob

I would have loved to do the open ocean stuff, but I got screwed and pretty much every time went to Lemoore NAS. They kinda had a torture chamber to simulate open ocean stuff ("Disneyland but the rides ain't fun" is how I think the instructors put it) where you would do a "helo lift" but with a crane while some big nozzles shot pressurized water at you, and the parachute platform, where you'd get hooked to a winch that would not gently pull you off a platform into the water and drag you across the pool while you unhooked you harness.

I gotta say that the navy had that training down, even taking people who couldn't swim and getting them trained up in under a week. Though I still remember that one time one of those "new swimmer" guys panicked in the dunker and started kicking his feet and kicked me good right in the head on my way out of the cockpit.
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The Roundtable / Re: How was your flight?
« Last post by BobR on May 21, 2024, 02:37:48 PM »
That's exactly what they teach at ASTC school. It's all about reference points, and for stuff like helos, apparently most of the crashes end with you being inverted. In fact the dunkers (at least the ones I was in for initial and refresher) are designed to only sink inverted, and you have to do at least a couple of iterations wearing a flight helmet and blinders to train you for finding reference points in the dark.

God those were fun. Dilbert Dunker, then the helo dunker. Have a seat, wait till you hit the water and are completely upside down before starting egress. What, you want to see, that isn't possible because you will be wearing goggles but when you can finally see blow some bubbles and follow them to the surface. We also did open ocean stuff, float, swim, get picked up by helo. That was always a fun few days going to DWEST (Deep Water Environment Survival Training). I never take off my seat belt unless I am getting out of my seat.

bob
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by WLJ on May 21, 2024, 02:31:55 PM »
Well someone threw what is described as a "incendiary device" onto the roof of my local Krispy Kreme
https://www.wlky.com/article/krispy-kreme-bardstown-road-fire-video-louisville/60859519

Found this and it makes me wonder

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Krispy Kreme
Donut brand owned by JAB Holdings which is owned by the Reimann family.
fooddrinks
The owners of Krispy Kreme, the Reimann family are staunch zionists and support the zionist state with investment and donations through their Alfred Landecker Foundation.
https://boycott.thewitness.news/target/krispykreme

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The Roundtable / Re: How was your flight?
« Last post by dogmush on May 21, 2024, 02:18:31 PM »
I pay for exit rows.  If anything goes down, I'll revert to my Infantry roots.  "Follow Me"
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Politics / Re: Israel Under Attack
« Last post by Jim147 on May 21, 2024, 02:15:57 PM »
UN lowered its flag to honor the butcher.

I've said it many times. Defund that trash org and kick them out. Remodel the building for our vets to have housing.

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The Roundtable / Re: Tractor Gun Rack Ideas?
« Last post by Kingcreek on May 21, 2024, 02:15:54 PM »
Does your loader frame have a spreader bar ahead of the steering column connecting the tops of the frame? (And no cab, right?)
I have an older Kolpin rhino grip pair on mine. It’s above the hood and ahead of the steering and in plain sight and handy to access. A lot less likely to get snagged on something or knocked off. It works great for a 12g shotgun with extended mag tube but I also sometimes have a shovel or an axe on it.
Just make sure it’s far enough back that it won’t be a problem at full up on loader arms.
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The Roundtable / Re: Tractor Gun Rack Ideas?
« Last post by Jim147 on May 21, 2024, 02:11:45 PM »
I used a scabbard until it got messed up. My model 60 fit tight enough that i left the top open and just reached over my shoulder when needed. I can't remember brand or where I got it but it was soft side with thick padding, and I had it mounted where if I hit scabbard on something the tractor was wreaked.
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The Roundtable / Re: How was your flight?
« Last post by Ben on May 21, 2024, 02:09:21 PM »
^^^I actually count the number of rows to the emergency exit front and back from my seat.  I figure if I am evacuating in the dark, upside down, or otherwise disoriented, I can still feel for the seats and count.

That's exactly what they teach at ASTC school. It's all about reference points, and for stuff like helos, apparently most of the crashes end with you being inverted. In fact the dunkers (at least the ones I was in for initial and refresher) are designed to only sink inverted, and you have to do at least a couple of iterations wearing a flight helmet and blinders to train you for finding reference points in the dark.
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Politics / Re: Maybe we should just start a The World Has Gone Mad thread
« Last post by K Frame on May 21, 2024, 01:44:58 PM »
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