Biker gang shootout in Waco

[Perd Hapley]

I had a couple of f *expletive deleted*faces from some small 1% support club tell me to take my CVMA vest off once. I told them if they wanted it removed, they'd have to do it. They all talked a big game , but when it came down to it they chickened out.

I'm going to assume that a CVMA vest is a motorcycle club membership vest. What was their problem with it?

[dogmush]

That club's not 1% enough to have vests.

[Fitz]

not a club, an association. we don't have "territory" and it's a simple one piece patch. It's actually a veterans charity who like to ride motorcycles, more than a motorcycle "club"

They said that where i was at was "their" turf.

Which is asinine on many levels (since we aren't a club), but the chief of which is that the dominant clubs had long  ago put the word out that we were to have free reign anywhere we went.


From what I understand the CoC dick smacked them over the issue.

[Perd Hapley]

That club's not 1% enough to have vests.

1% what?

And they seriously get upset over other folks' vests?

[Jamisjockey]

1% what?

And they seriously get upset over other folks' vests?

Yes.  Clubs are territorial like gangs.  The bad ones are 1 % ers which stands for the 1% who break the law and do anything for the club.  Hells angels etc.  you gotta earn a 1% patch and usually not by doing something pretty.

[charby]

1% what?

And they seriously get upset over other folks' vests?

1% comes from a misquote from American Motorcycle Association after the Hollister, CA Riot in 1947.

Something 99% of motorcyclists don't act like the ones that caused the problems in Hollister.

 

[Angel Eyes]

1% what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw_motorcycle_club#One_percenter

[Perd Hapley]

So they're rebels, and outlaws, and don't care about the rules. Until you wear something they don't like on the wrong side of some territorial line, and then they suddenly care very much about the rules. Must have good order, musn't we, old chap?

Between the bicyclists and bikers, there seems to be some mental derangement involved in riding two-wheeled vehicles, as an adult. This should be investigated.

[charby]

So they're rebels, and outlaws, and don't care about the rules. Until you wear something they don't like on the wrong side of some territorial line, and then they suddenly care very much about the rules. Must have good order, musn't we, old chap?

Between the bicyclists and bikers, there seems to be some mental derangement involved in riding two-wheeled vehicles, as an adult. This should be investigated.

Questioning them is a good way to end up seriously beaten or dead, along with your family. They don't *expletive deleted*ck around with people who try to figure them out.

[Boomhauer]

1% what?

And they seriously get upset over other folks' vests?

Alright I'm going to give you a rundown about the OMCs and colors.

Most Outlaw Motorcycle clubs have a three piece patch on the back of their vest. It'll have a top rocker, the main patch, and the bottom rocker. You'll see that the top rocker has the MC name, the bottom rocker often the location, and the main patch will be the logo.

Sometimes you will see riders with  single rocker on the bottom of the jacket that says "prospect". These are people looking to join the OMC...they are associating with the OMC, going to events with the OMC, and often will engage in criminal activity in order to prove their loyalty to the OMC. 

Any group that is wearing a design in the same style (i.e., a three piece patch) as an OMC will likely be hassled by an OMC...they are rather protective of "their" style.

So they're rebels, and outlaws, and don't care about the rules.

Oh no, OMCs care very much about rules. The difference is they only care about the rules of the club (most have a constitution and elected officers, and meet regularly). Their only allegiance is to the club.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Yea their list of punishments us short but severe


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[Fitz]

Also, as a reminder, there are way more non 1% clubs/organizations than there are one percenter clubs.

[Perd Hapley]

Questioning them is a good way to end up seriously beaten or dead, along with your family. They don't *expletive deleted*ck around with people who try to figure them out.

You mean the motorcycle gangs, or the guys in the spandex? In either case, I wasn't planning to track them down and tell them the error of their ways.

Any group that is wearing a design in the same style (i.e., a three piece patch) as an OMC will likely be hassled by an OMC...they are rather protective of "their" style.

So, it's kinda like when a girl finds out some other girl just showed up, wearing the same dress?

[MechAg94]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/southwest/2015/05/charges_filed_against_170_motorcycle_gang_members_in_texas

There are a bunch of articles, but looks like Twin Peaks revoked the franchise and the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission has temporarily revoked their alcohol permit.  Heard the local manager had some involvement with one of the biker gangs.  Not sure if that last was in an article or not.

http://www.goheroes.us/53-hours/texas-biker-gangs-ordered-to-kill-anyone-in-uniform
I saw this nugget posted about bikers going after cops, but others say it is bogus. 

[Monkeyleg]

I think most outlaw bikers are more like sociopaths who happen to ride motorcycles than they are hard-core bikers. The ones I've actually spoken to didn't know squat about working on bikes or what makes them go. I had the pleasure of watching one outlaw absolutely destroy his clutch and primary chain after he had them apart. Every time I'd offer advice, he'd tell me to *expletive deleted*ck off. The clatter when he started up the bike was music to my ears.

My ex-BIL was put in the hospital for three days by a Milwaukee Outlaw for absolutely no reason. Just wanted to beat someone to death, and BIL was the first person he saw. When the cops talked to BIL, they told him he could press charges, but then he'd be in danger from the rest of the club. So, the Outlaw was never charged.

[Balog]

http://kxan.com/2015/05/17/fatal-shooting-at-twin-peaks-in-waco/

"At least" 170 arrested and charged so far, I've seen reports of 192 at present but not sure on source.

[Balog]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=417_1431900525

[Balog]

This appears to have been an event sanctioned through United Clubs of Waco. Here's a list of their member clubs.


BANDIDOS MC

OUTCAST MC

LOS CABALLEROS MC, KILLEEN

LOS CABALLEROS MC, MCLENNAN NORTH

LOS CABALLEROS MC, MCLENNAN EAST

LOS COMANDANTES MC

AKA MANAH MC

AMERICAN LEGION RIDERS, POST 55

AMERICAN LEGION RIDERS, POST 121

AMERICAN LEGION RIDERS, POST 223

AMERICAN LEGION RIDERS, POST 573

AMERICAN LEGION RIDERS, POST 582

AMERICAN VETERANS MC

BIKERS AGAINST CHILD ABUSE, INC.

BLACK KINGZ MC

BROTHERS IN ARMS MC

BOOZEFIGHTERS MC, CH 50

BOOZEFIGHTERS MC, CH 78

BOOZEFIGHTERS MC, CH 99

CHARIOTS OF LIGHT

CIA - KILLEEN

CHRISTIAN MOTORCYCLISTS ASSOCIATION

CIRCUIT RIDER MOTORCYCLE MINISTRY

COMBAT VETS MOTORCYCLE ASSOCIATION

CORRUPT RIDAZ

CHROME CRUZERS MC

DEM BOYZ - KILLEEN

DEM GIRLZ

DISCIPLES FOR CHRIST MM

DOGMEN MC

DRGA MC

ESSAYONS MC

FADED SPADES MC

FORGOTTEN SOLDIERS MC

FREEDOM RIDERS MC

FULL TILT RIDERS MC

QUEEN CITY DIVAS MC

GYPSY MC, BELTON

HONOR BOUND MOTORCYCLE MINISTRY

IN COUNTRY MC

K9 MC

K9 TOO MC

KINGZ MC

LADY LEGENDZ ON TWO MC

LEGENDZ ON TWO MC

LEATHERNECKS MC

LONESTAR KRUSERS MC

LOS PIRADOS MC

MARINES MC

MOOSE RIDERS, C2

NASTY DOGS MC

NEWS MC

NIGHT STALKERS MC

NUBOYZ WIT ATTITUDE MC

OUTSYDAZ MSC

PRIESTHOOD MM

QUEENS OF SHEBA MC

REGULATORS MC, BELL COUNTY

RUFF RYDERS

SHELL SHOCKED MC

SHOW STOPPAZ MC

SILVERBACKS MC

SIX MC

SONS OF BORIKEN MC

SONS OF SOLOMON MC

SONS OF THE SOUTH MC

SOUL HAWKS MC

SOUL II SOUL MC - KILLEEN

TRU RYDERZ MC

VETERANS MC

VIET NAM VETS / LEGACY VETS MC

WIND & FIRE MC, INC.

#1 STUNNAS MSC

1st Cav Riders

 

[Balog]

Cops are reporting large numbers of out of area bikers coming to town after the festivities and sticking around. Local hospital where the injured are being treated is locked down to prevent reprisal killings.

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Police--Out-Of-Town-Bikers-Remain-In-Waco-304116201.htm

[MillCreek]

Between the bicyclists and bikers, there seems to be some mental derangement involved in riding two-wheeled vehicles, as an adult. This should be investigated.

Submitted for your approval and to prove your point:  After I rode the Suzuki DL650 to and from the office today, clad in my fluorescent neon Olympia suit, I came home and rode one of my bicycles for ten miles, clad in my fluorescent neon spandex jersey, but just regular shorts.  Clear evidence of derangement. Or senility. 

[Balog]

Submitted for your approval and to prove your point:  After I rode the Suzuki DL650 to and from the office today, clad in my fluorescent neon Olympia suit, I came home and rode one of my bicycles for ten miles, clad in my fluorescent neon spandex jersey, but just regular shorts.  Clear evidence of derangement. Or senility. 

Making me picture you in spandex may qualify as domestic terrorism. 


Here's a WaPo puff piece on the Bandidos, with some useful background on the OMC phenomenon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/05/18/how-the-bandidos-became-americas-most-feared-biker-gang/

[Balog]

Interesting tidbit from this article. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/18/waco-shootout-police-involvement/27530257/

A warning bulletin was even issued May 1 by the Texas Joint Information Center run by the Texas Department of Public Safety.

"Violence between members of the Bandidos OMG and the Cossacks MC has increased in Texas with no indication of diminishing," according to the bulletin. "The conflict may stem from Cossacks members refusing to pay Bandidos dues for operating in Texas and for claiming Texas as their territory by wearing the Texas bottom rocker on their vests, or 'colors' or 'cuts."

According to the bulletin, law officers had been actively trying to reduce tensions between the two groups and had met with them about it. They had been cautioned about the "unwanted attention a potential war would bring to both groups," the bulletin said.

[Perd Hapley]

[list_of_biker_club_names]

No doubt the trouble started when someone was ridiculed for their team's dopey, rap-group name.

[dogmush]

This appears to have been an event sanctioned through United Clubs of Waco. Here's a list of their member clubs.

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QUEENS OF SHEBA MC

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There's a joke here, but I haven't found it quite yet.

[Balog]

[list_of_biker_club_names]

No doubt the trouble started when someone was ridiculed for their team's dopey, rap-group name.

I'd imagine that some of them are in fact urban youth rap listening groups.

You seem to be taking violent organized criminal enterprises rather lightly.