Biker gang shootout in Waco

[Balog]

First mugshots released. What a bunch of fine upstanding individuals.

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29095371/mugshots-released-of-motorcycle-gang-members-arrested-in-waco

[Balog]

The annual Republic of Texas biker rally is coming up June 11-14. Somewhere around 50,000 bikers expected. That'll be interesting.

http://www.rotrally.com/articles/rot-rally-news/162/rot-rally-statement-on-20th-anniversary-event

[never_retreat]

First mugshots released. What a bunch of fine upstanding individuals.

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29095371/mugshots-released-of-motorcycle-gang-members-arrested-in-waco

Flip through those pictures and you will see a trend.  Besides the obvious dirt bag look going on.
White guys and Hispanic guys.

I'm not up on my mc gang groups but aren't some of the ones listed back clubs and also Nazi based ones.

[Angel Eyes]

CNN is reporting that at least four of the dead were killed by police:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/18/us/texas-biker-gang-brawl-shooting/index.html

With reports of more Bandidos and Cossacks headed to north Texas, I'm wondering if they're looking for rival "club" members or the police.  Or both.

[Balog]

Flip through those pictures and you will see a trend.  Besides the obvious dirt bag look going on.
White guys and Hispanic guys.

I'm not up on my mc gang groups but aren't some of the ones listed back clubs and also Nazi based ones.

I believe there are some black OMC's but none were at this gathering AFAICT.

[Balog]

Looks like this has been brewing for a while.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Waco-Shootout-Linked-to-North-Texas-Attacks-304170711.html

[Fitz]

I believe there are some black OMC's but none were at this gathering AFAICT.

There are sportbike clubs that participate in the CoC and quite a few are majority black, both 1% and non, and they're the ones in the list. This gathering didn't have them from what I can see. You'd know by the bikes.

[Balog]

There are sportbike clubs that participate in the CoC and quite a few are majority black, both 1% and non, and they're the ones in the list. This gathering didn't have them from what I can see. You'd know by the bikes.

Here in WA we have an all Goldwing club that is majority black from what I've seen.

[Doggy Daddy]

What is CoC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1TeoMNbOpE#t=47m37s

[Andiron]

You say COC,  I say big tent with crappy network and antiquated computers 

[Perd Hapley]

You seem to be taking violent organized criminal enterprises rather lightly.

No, I'm sure there are plenty of dangerous criminals to be found therein. It's just that they should be mocked, the same way we mock ISIS, Apple-users, or other ne'erdowells.

[charby]

No, I'm sure there are plenty of dangerous criminals to be found therein. It's just that they should be mocked, the same way we mock ISIS, Apple-users, or other ne'erdowells.

I don't think you realize how dangerous 1% clubs are.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

So, if I wanted to just ride a motorcycle for fun, would I have to play along with all of this drama and pageantry?  Would I have to join a gang and wear a uniform and worry about whose turf I'm on and which other gangs are allies and enemies?  Or could I, you know, just ride a motorcycle for fun?  Would they hassle me for not participating in all this ridiculous nonsense?

[charby]

So, if I wanted to just ride a motorcycle for fun, would I have to play along with all of this drama and pageantry?  Would I have to join a gang and wear a uniform and worry about whose turf I'm on and which other gangs are allies and enemies?  Or could I, you know, just ride a motorcycle for fun?  Would they hassle me for not participating in all this ridiculous nonsense?

No, not at all. You can ride a motorcycle for fun without any association, just don't wear any colors or patches from any of the MCs.

[RoadKingLarry]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I've never seen a 1%er go after a "civilian" biker that's just out minding their own business . Kind of a don't start no *expletive deleted*it won't be no *expletive deleted*it deal for the most part. I've put a lot of miles on cross country and never had any problems when I've encountered MCs on the road.

[Angel Eyes]

From what I understand the CoC dick smacked them over the issue.

I had no idea the Council of Churches had gotten so heavy-handed.

[Perd Hapley]

I don't think you realize how dangerous 1% clubs are.

What has gotten into you guys? What other groups are so dangerous that we dare not make fun of them on the internets? It would seem I need a list.

[BobR]

So, if I wanted to just ride a motorcycle for fun, would I have to play along with all of this drama and pageantry?  Would I have to join a gang and wear a uniform and worry about whose turf I'm on and which other gangs are allies and enemies?  Or could I, you know, just ride a motorcycle for fun?  Would they hassle me for not participating in all this ridiculous nonsense?

I rode a Norton all over CA during the 70's and often ran into HAs or another group called the Orphans. Usually met them when camping, etc. Never had any issues, it was a mutual respect I guess. I would offer them food, they would offer me other stuff and at the appropriate time I would retire to my little tent.

Now days I pretty much ride alone. Most of my bike riding friends have HDs and they play the part to the hilt. Every thing they wear is HD branded, when they ride or not ride they dress like pirates.     I just can't do that!!

I have run across a few 1%ers recently at gas stations, etc and we exchanged pleasantries and head out our own way. I have seen a few more prospects running around town lately, the HAs have taken a pretty good hit here in WA lately so maybe they are trying to rebuild. Those are the ones I keep my eye on a little closer than the patched members.

bob

[Balog]

So, if I wanted to just ride a motorcycle for fun, would I have to play along with all of this drama and pageantry?  Would I have to join a gang and wear a uniform and worry about whose turf I'm on and which other gangs are allies and enemies?  Or could I, you know, just ride a motorcycle for fun?  Would they hassle me for not participating in all this ridiculous nonsense?

Don't wear a three piece patch and you'll be fine. Just like not going into Bloods territory wearing blue.

[Balog]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I've never seen a 1%er go after a "civilian" biker that's just out minding their own business . Kind of a don't start no *expletive deleted*it won't be no *expletive deleted*it deal for the most part. I've put a lot of miles on cross country and never had any problems when I've encountered MCs on the road.

OMC's are businesses, criminal businesses but still. Attacking random civilians brings heat to the gang and hurts profits. Probably a better chance of non MC affiliated violent criminals hassling you.

[Balog]

What has gotten into you guys? What other groups are so dangerous that we dare not make fun of them on the internets? It would seem I need a list.

You are coming across less as mocking the group and more as making light of the threat they pose.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I've never seen a 1%er go after a "civilian" biker that's just out minding their own business . Kind of a don't start no *expletive deleted*it won't be no *expletive deleted*it deal for the most part. I've put a lot of miles on cross country and never had any problems when I've encountered MCs on the road.

That's been my experience as well
If you did have a beef with 1 trick would be to get the club to be clear it's not club business
If its club business you have a problem

[wmenorr67]

Seen reports that bail for the offenders have been set at $1 million.  Some comments I saw on one story brings up a good question.  How many of these are actually going to be convicted?  I know some of them might be but wonder when it comes to trial how many witnesses won't show up.

[wmenorr67]

not a club, an association. we don't have "territory" and it's a simple one piece patch. It's actually a veterans charity who like to ride motorcycles, more than a motorcycle "club"

They said that where i was at was "their" turf.

Which is asinine on many levels (since we aren't a club), but the chief of which is that the dominant clubs had long  ago put the word out that we were to have free reign anywhere we went.


From what I understand the CoC dick smacked them over the issue.

That is what a good CoC can and will do.  If, you, as a member of a club that is a member of the CoC, run into issues with another club or the law you contact your club officers and they will contact the CoC and let them handle the issue as a larger organization.

My club doesn't wear a three piece patch, just a two, because we aren't about claiming territory.

[RoadKingLarry]

OMC's are businesses, criminal businesses but still. Attacking random civilians brings heat to the gang and hurts profits. Probably a better chance of non MC affiliated violent criminals hassling you.

The term "outlaw" gets misused quite a bit when it comes to bikers.
The use of "outlaw" when applied to a motorcycle club means no more than that they are not sanctioned by a governing body such as the American Motorcycle Association.  A 1% club is a totally different animal. When I was still in VA I was a patch holder in an "outlaw" motorcycle club. While some members may or may not have been involved in criminal activity the club itself was not.