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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2019, 06:54:14 PM »
Sadly...
I'm not too confident in a positive outcome.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2019, 08:26:35 AM »
Slight tangent, but it's interesting to see that "sanctuary city" is suddenly "defying the law of the land".

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The full story is behind a Washington Post paywall, but you get the gist of it from their Twitter page. Further tangent, their Twitter opinion page is concrete evidence against, "For the thousandth time, journalists don't take sides".
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2019, 02:10:41 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLh5BdAGv6E
Suffolk, VA 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Gun Rights Speech

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2019, 12:14:15 PM »
Further tangent, their Twitter opinion page is concrete evidence against, "For the thousandth time, journalists don't take sides".

The statement is correct.

Journalists (real journalists) don't take sides.

But are there any real journalists?

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2019, 05:20:34 PM »
Diogenes?
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2019, 05:52:21 PM »
Diogenes?

Yes. I believe he is searching for an honest man.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2019, 07:05:06 PM »
Yes. I believe he is searching for an honest man.

Yer gonna need a bigger candle.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2019, 04:42:53 PM »
Well, here's one way to respond:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/virgina-sheriff-vows-to-deputize-resident-in-response-to-expected-gun-control-legislation-from-state-democratic-lawmakers

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A Virginia sheriff has vowed to deputize residents in his county if the new Democratic-led legislature enacts gun control measures.

Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins made the vow during a Board of Supervisors meeting last week in which the panel unanimously agreed to declare the county a Second Amendment Constitutional County.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2019, 01:35:29 PM »
Virginia Democrats ratchet up the rhetoric, threaten to send in the National Guard if local police won't enforce gun control laws:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control

 [popcorn]
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #60 on: December 13, 2019, 01:41:23 PM »
I sort of hope the people showing up at these county hearings are people who woke up and realized they should have voted.  Does anyone know about that?
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #61 on: December 13, 2019, 01:41:46 PM »
Virginia Democrats ratchet up the rhetoric, threaten to send in the National Guard if local police won't enforce gun control laws:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control

 [popcorn]


They think the Virginia National Guard will obey unlawful orders.  Popcorn, indeed :)
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #62 on: December 13, 2019, 02:19:10 PM »
Virginia Democrats ratchet up the rhetoric, threaten to send in the National Guard if local police won't enforce gun control laws:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control

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Just shows how little they know about either the law or the Constitution.

Can you imagine what might happen if they were to try door-to-door confiscations in some of the more... rural... counties in Virginia (i.e., hillbilly havens)?

More than one government agent left counties like Dickenson, Wythe, Franklin, or Floyd on stretchers during Prohibition.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #63 on: December 13, 2019, 02:27:37 PM »
Just shows how little they know about either the law or the Constitution.

Can you imagine what might happen if they were to try door-to-door confiscations in some of the more... rural... counties in Virginia (i.e., hillbilly havens)?

More than one government agent left counties like Dickenson, Wythe, Franklin, or Floyd on stretchers during Prohibition.

My great-grandfather was a revenuer in Floyd County during prohibition.

Related to that, the ENTIRETY of his family left Virginia during prohibition and moved to Illinois. Death threats tend to inspire actions like that.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #64 on: December 13, 2019, 02:43:21 PM »
Family has land in Franklin county, hasn't changed much.

This whole Guard thing is hilarious. I wasn't guard, but Navy and Reserve. But you don't call folks like us for stuff like this. I didn't take an oath to the Constitution 6 times so I could be some discredited governor's OrdPo. Would never work, so I hope Northam keeps pushing it.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #65 on: December 13, 2019, 03:27:41 PM »
I sort of hope the people showing up at these county hearings are people who woke up and realized they should have voted.  Does anyone know about that?

That would be good. CA got where it is because of all the "It'll never happen, get outa my face with that petition" so-called gun owners I used to run into at gun shows in the 80s.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #66 on: December 14, 2019, 12:15:21 AM »
As a practical matter the issue with "the local police won't do it, call in the National Guard" is who, exactly, do you think is in the National Guard?  The Venn Diagram of "folks willing to be part time state based soldiers" and "folks that work for the local government as first responders" is best described as a short oval.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #67 on: December 14, 2019, 01:33:13 AM »
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2019, 09:25:10 AM »
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+ful+HB67

I am laughing out loud here.

Seems the "Second Amendment Sanctuary" movement is scaring them.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2019, 09:53:10 AM »
Friend of mine in Iowa has been following this. He was reading to me some article he found about "Constitutional scholars" being asked if using the National Guard to enforce a state law would be legal.

Apparently several of them said yes, it would be.

I need to ask him to send me a link to that article.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2019, 11:24:25 AM »
Starting to look a lot like a real no win scenario in VA. The libtards can't back down and look weak and I'm afraid the citizenry doesn't have the guts to stand up to the politicians.
Gonna be an interesting year.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2019, 12:51:04 PM »
Last night I was at a shindig with neighbors..... most of them raging leftists. They stated that if the law is passed, it must be followed as it IS THE LAW!

My reminder that sitting in the back of the bus was at one point a law that should be followed for exactly the same reason was not received well.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2019, 12:53:43 PM »
Last night I was at a shindig with neighbors..... most of them raging leftists. They stated that if the law is passed, it must be followed as it IS THE LAW!

Just like with immigration right?
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