Was going to post this as an individual thread, then found this discussion. Soooo...
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"Hawaii's Supreme Court Insists
There Is No Individual Right to Arms" -JPFO
"Rejecting a challenge to the state's strict gun laws, the court is openly contemptuous of Second Amendment precedents."
https://jpfo.org/alerts2024/alert20240209.htmI noted this because a couple of years ago when I was active (as 230RN) on the Hawaiian gun site (2ahawaii.com) i asked for a translation of the Second Amendment into Hawaiian and then back into English.
I noted that they had inserted the word "militia" in the retranslation as follows:
"...the right of the people (militia) to keep and bear arms..."
Just noting this as an illustration of this gratuitous insertion of a word
which was not in the original as adopted[.
Now we can argue hither and yon as to what "militia" means in this context and who put it there, but my point is that its insertion implies, to the ordinary Hawaiian, that it strictly pertains to military objectives.
So no wonder the Hawaiian Supreme Court is
brain-bound with the notion that the Second Amendment
only relates to military matters.I'm afraid to add that in my experience, the Aloha spirit is: "Obey, peasant. Pick them pineapples and be happy."
Hawaii is overwhelmingly infused with the concept of "statism," and G-d help us all.
Regretfully submitted,
Terry, 230N