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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1350 on: May 09, 2024, 09:05:51 AM »
They're cold and hot at the same time? 

Well the protesters have been 80-90% women, the other 10-20% think they're women.
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1351 on: May 09, 2024, 10:57:12 AM »
As Israel continues to drop leaflets, send warnings, and delay attacks to give "civilians" a chance to get to a safe zone. In quotes, because I truly wonder just how many of them are "innocent civilians". While I'm sure many have no choice, it also seems many "civilians" happily work as Hamas shields.

The Gaza strip is composed of a population with which even the surrounding countries, who are culturally similar, want nothing to do with.

When a populace supports the violent actions of its government, the populace is every bit a fair target in warfare.

This goes equally for Gaza in this conflict, German cities in WWII, and the US today.

This is a lesson that democracies struggle to learn, though.  The US didn't apply it in A-stan or Iraq.  Looks like Israel understands it, but is air dropping leaflets as diplomatic cover (no one in Gaza has anywhere to flee).  I guarantee that the muslims grok, which is why they prefer to attack soft civilian targets rather than military ones.
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1352 on: May 09, 2024, 02:29:52 PM »
. . . I truly wonder just how many of them are "innocent civilians". . .
Since Hamas couldn't exist and continue to operate without support of the majority of the population, I'd say the only group comprised largely of "innocent civilians" are the children being used as human shields by adults - including their parents.

The only thing I'm not certain about is exactly where to draw the age limit - maybe early teens?
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1353 on: May 09, 2024, 03:29:44 PM »
Since Hamas couldn't exist and continue to operate without support of the majority of the population, I'd say the only group comprised largely of "innocent civilians" are the children being used as human shields by adults - including their parents.

The only thing I'm not certain about is exactly where to draw the age limit - maybe early teens?
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1354 on: May 09, 2024, 09:18:25 PM »
At the same time that Brandon is holding back arms for Israel, they have apparently created a sanction waver to get arms to Qatar, Lebanon, and Iraq.

https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/05/09/report-biden-admin-waives-sanctions-on-arms-sales-to-qatar-lebanon-iraq-n2396091
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1355 on: May 09, 2024, 11:01:52 PM »
At the same time that Brandon is holding back arms for Israel, they have apparently created a sanction waver to get arms to Qatar, Lebanon, and Iraq.

https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/05/09/report-biden-admin-waives-sanctions-on-arms-sales-to-qatar-lebanon-iraq-n2396091
And didn't Biden resume financial aid to Gaza which Trump had stopped? Aid that as sure as the sun rises in the East funds Hamas? Isn't the Hamas leadership hanging out in Qatar? And how does one keep arms shipments to Lebanon away from Hezbollah?

These actions can no longer be explained by senility or stupidity, there's actual malice in play.
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1356 on: May 10, 2024, 08:24:26 AM »
Lets see, that narrative didn't stick
And this one
Nor this one
I know! Lets try this!

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    The hostages could’ve been returned on day 3 if Israel had agreed not to enter Gaza. It is the Netanyahu government that is standing in the way of the safe return of the hostages, not Hamas.
    — Royal Quaye (@QuayeRoyal) May 9, 2024
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/05/09/hot-take-the-hostages-could-have-been-returned-on-day-3-if-israel-agreed-not-to-enter-gaza-n2396101

See it's all Israel's fault for not playing nice after Oct 7th!
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1357 on: May 10, 2024, 09:12:20 AM »
What is standing in the way is that most, if not all, of the hostages are likely dead now, and Hamas is looking at how to work with that. Hence stuff like the recent, "We'll release 30 hostages, dead or alive". Probably 30 because they haven't been dead long enough for their bodies to be in full decomposition, like the other 100.
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1358 on: May 11, 2024, 01:42:48 PM »
Oh *expletive deleted*it! Funny and not funny

With Biden Stalling, Israel Announces They Will Just Get American Weapons From Taliban
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1359 on: May 11, 2024, 02:47:11 PM »
Sacramento State takes a knee

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California State University, Sacramento ended disruptive protests on its campus this week by working with students to create new policies on investment ostensibly aimed at Israel.

Protests ended on Wednesday after the school updated its policies to state that the university "directs its auxiliaries [...] to investigate socially responsible investment strategies which include not having direct investments in corporations and funds that profit from genocide, ethnic cleansing, and activities that violate fundamental human rights."

Local representatives of Students for Justice in Palestine celebrated the change as a major victory for their cause, thanking University President Luke Wood for facilitating dialogues since protests began last month.

“Being a part of the student intifada is an honor,” said a SJP organizer speaking at the Wednesday press conference. “No student wants their tuition to ever go toward ethnic cleansing or genocide of anyone. Especially when you are Palestinian, you are forced into a terrible position of being complicit in the genocide of your own people.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/may-11-anti-israel-campus-protests
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1360 on: May 11, 2024, 03:26:14 PM »
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“No student wants their tuition to ever go toward ethnic cleansing or genocide of anyone.

What a *expletive deleted*bag. I don't ever want my taxes going toward paying of a student's education loans that they volunteered to take on, yet here we are!

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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1361 on: May 11, 2024, 04:01:41 PM »
"Honored to be part of the Student Intifada"

These brats need a solid dose of the real world.

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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1362 on: May 11, 2024, 05:23:34 PM »
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/05/11/white-house-kept-bidens-plan-to-abandon-israel-out-of-the-readout-of-the-call-with-netanyahu-n2396138

Where is Vindman when you need him?!? I recently saw an interview with that jackass, who was pretty much calling himself a hero and saying he would continue to call out corruption wherever he found it. I mean, this is what he whistleblew on Trump for, so where is he now?
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1363 on: May 13, 2024, 08:34:26 AM »
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    PRINCETON GAZA SOLIDARITY ENCAMPMENT UPDATE: Due to health concerns of the 13 strikers who fasted for 9 days, the first hunger strike wave ended and the second wave has begun. In the tradition of rotary hunger strikes, 7 new strikers are indefinitely fasting for a free Palestine.
    — Princeton Israeli Apartheid Divest (@PtonDivestNow) May 13, 2024

And we're suppose to take them seriously  :facepalm:

LOL: Princeton Protesters MOCKED After Announcing 'Rotary Hunger Strikes'
https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2024/05/13/princeton-hunger-strikers-give-up-rotary-hunger-strikes-n2396158
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1364 on: May 13, 2024, 08:39:28 AM »
I'd like to announce that I am also taking part in a rotary hunger strike.  After breakfast, I will go on hunger strike until lunch, then pass the baton to someone who had a slightly earlier lunch.  After a good meal, I plan on hunger striking until dinner, unless someone brings in cookies, in which case we will take turns eating a cookie.

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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1365 on: May 13, 2024, 08:44:31 AM »
Since there's strength in numbers, I would like to join you in your hunger strike.  Please tell me when you're eating a cookie so I can refrain from mine.  It's important that somebody, somewhere, is always fasting so the protest has meaning.
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1366 on: May 13, 2024, 08:48:26 AM »
And I'm Eating for Israel.

And will continue to eat for Israel.
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« Reply #1367 on: May 13, 2024, 08:50:03 AM »
Since there's strength in numbers, I would like to join you in your hunger strike.  Please tell me when you're eating a cookie so I can refrain from mine.  It's important that somebody, somewhere, is always fasting so the protest has meaning.
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1368 on: May 13, 2024, 08:50:16 AM »
Need to show up and start eating bagels
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1369 on: May 13, 2024, 09:53:55 AM »
The UN has revised, significantly downward, the estimated number of Gazans killed in the war with Israel.

Previously they had been taking Hamas numbers at face value. Gee... I don't see a problem with that at all!

https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-revises-gaza-death-toll-50-less-women-children-killed-previously-reported
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1370 on: May 13, 2024, 10:03:38 AM »
The UN has revised, significantly downward, the estimated number of Gazans killed in the war with Israel.

Previously they had been taking Hamas numbers at face value. Gee... I don't see a problem with that at all!

https://www.foxnews.com/world/un-revises-gaza-death-toll-50-less-women-children-killed-previously-reported

Be willing to bet that new number needs to be cut at least 50% as well
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1371 on: May 13, 2024, 10:14:01 AM »
Be willing to bet that new number needs to be cut at least 50% as well
Maybe, but it wouldn't shock me if a lot of innocent women and children had been killed both by Israeli and Hamas action in this conflict.  It's hard to fight a war in a heavily populated zone without leaving a lot of innocent bodies around.

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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1372 on: May 13, 2024, 10:18:55 AM »
Maybe, but it wouldn't shock me if a lot of innocent women and children had been killed both by Israeli and Hamas action in this conflict.  It's hard to fight a war in a heavily populated zone without leaving a lot of innocent bodies around.

Especially when the enemy views them as useful shields
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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1373 on: May 13, 2024, 10:23:53 AM »
Especially when the enemy views them as useful shields
Sure, and dead ones as useful propaganda.  But I don't doubt for a minute that many of the innocent Gazans are also dying to Israeli action. 

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Re: Israel Under Attack
« Reply #1374 on: May 13, 2024, 10:29:37 AM »
Sure, and dead ones as useful propaganda.  But I don't doubt for a minute that many of the innocent Gazans are also dying to Israeli action.

No doubt, never said otherwise, just question the numbers which is useful propaganda
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