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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #650 on: July 13, 2024, 06:21:58 AM »
That's how I view it.

I am not at all happy that Baldwin gets to walk, but I blame the prosecution. If they were so sure this ammunition -- whatever it was and wherever it came from -- had no evidentiary value, then it wouldn't have hurt their case to inform the defense about it. The fact that they hid it certainly suggests that it DID have evidentiary value. Why else would they hide it?

A possibiity:  because The Fix Was In and they wanted to provide an excuse for a later mistrial or even a dismissal... which happened.  Just another branch on this weed.

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I HATE prosecutors who skirt the rules in the blind pursuit of a conviction. I think there was enough to easily convict Baldwin. To have the case dismissed over something like this in inexcusable.

Agreed, but see above "possibility" remark.

Quoted for truth.

In a true and just world every person on the prosecution team who played fast and loose with the evidentiary rules and issues would be looking for a non-legal job on Monday morning.

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In that true and just and fair and equitable world, they'd be looking at their cell doors slamming shut on Monday morning.  And if The Fix isn't any wider, one would hope the new DA would be willing to go after the old DA.

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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #651 on: July 13, 2024, 09:38:58 AM »
Back to lecturing us about the evils of guns because, you know, this would have never happened if it wasn't for a gun.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #652 on: July 13, 2024, 11:32:18 AM »
Back to lecturing us about the evils of guns because, you know, this would have never happened if it wasn't for a gun.

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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #653 on: July 13, 2024, 11:56:30 AM »
Now Baldwin can get back to business and release the film he was trying to make when that stupid girl got in the way of his bullet. With all the free publicity, he may even get his money back.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #654 on: July 13, 2024, 12:05:36 PM »
Speaking of money
It's not completely over for Alec as there is still an ongoing wrongful death suit because someone didn't get their agreed upon money to settle it.

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Still, with the agreed upon funds due to the Hutchins estate having not been paid by the Rust team as scheduled, and now months and months behind, this could get very messy for Baldwin again, sources tell me. As it is, the early 2022 filed wrongful death suit is actually still open in the New Mexico courts as various defendants and insurance companies continue to bicker in the docket.

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The idea was the wrongful death suit from Hutchins would be dismissed once the settlement was approved by a Land of Enchantment judge — which it was formally done on June 1 last year.

However, the Hutchins never received the money they were supposed to in a timely fashion soon afterwards. That seems to be part due to disputes Rust Movie Productions has with insurance company Chubb. The lack of payments for the past year to the Hutchins estate also is connected to the nearly $1.6 million in New Mexico tax incentives that Rust was awarded.

Halyna Hutchins’ Widower Vows To Take Alec Baldwin Back To Court Over Fatal Shooting Of ‘Rust’ Cinematographer
https://deadline.com/2024/07/alec-baldwin-halyna-hutchins-widower-sued-again-rust-1236009036/
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #655 on: July 13, 2024, 03:45:49 PM »
If they withheld evidence from Baldwin's team, what are the possibilities of the armorer filing an appeal for the same reasons?
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #656 on: July 13, 2024, 04:38:32 PM »
I figure her petition for dismissal and a new trial will be filed Monday morning. Taking into account how bad they screwed the pooch with Baldwin I would expect to see her prevail for a new trial at least.

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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #657 on: July 13, 2024, 05:30:54 PM »
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #658 on: July 13, 2024, 06:33:55 PM »
I figure her petition for dismissal and a new trial will be filed Monday morning. Taking into account how bad they screwed the pooch with Baldwin I would expect to see her prevail for a new trial at least.


Since the same judge who ran the armorer's trial was running this trial, I don't see any option other than to vacate her conviction and set her free. Which will remove the felony conviction from her record, allowing her to play with guns again.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #659 on: July 13, 2024, 10:25:56 PM »
Since the same judge who ran the armorer's trial was running this trial, I don't see any option other than to vacate her conviction and set her free. Which will remove the felony conviction from her record, allowing her to play with guns again.

Yeah ... that doesn't give me the warm fuzzies.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #661 on: March 20, 2025, 08:30:17 AM »
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #662 on: March 20, 2025, 01:44:29 PM »
Even his "hispanic" wife is on him.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1902115896975634616

LOVE IT!

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Baldwin is of English, French-Canadian, German, Irish, and Slovak descent.[5] In December 2020, a Twitter user accused Baldwin of "impersonat[ing] a Spanish person" and posted video clips of Baldwin speaking with a Spanish accent, including a clip from the Today Show in which Baldwin seemingly forgot the English word for "cucumber".[10][62] The tweets prompted accusations in various media publications of Baldwin's cultural appropriation,[63][64][65][66] since at other times she has been recorded speaking American-accented English.[67] Her agency's website listed her birthplace as Mallorca rather than Boston.[5] Baldwin was often misidentified as either Mallorcan, Spanish, or Latina, encouraging positive press by Hispanic media such as the celebrity gossip magazine ¡Hola!.[68] Baldwin affirmed mistaken statements that she was "half-Spanish" while speaking at the UN, and spoke "as if she has a Spaniard's familiarity with that country's food culture".[9][8]
Hilaria Baldwin (center right) with husband Alec (center left) at the 2011 US Open, Opening Day

In March 2021, The Atlantic listed Baldwin as an "identity hoaxer" along with Rachel Dolezal and Jessica Krug.[69] Baldwin responded that she identifies as white, and her ethnic background includes "many, many, many things".[70] Baldwin claims that she was raised in a Spanish-speaking household.[8] She said she spent "some" of her childhood in Spain and "some" in Massachusetts, but had never been enrolled in school in Spain, only spending time there during family holidays.[5][71] She has stated that she began to use the name Hilaria "as she got older". Baldwin also claimed her inability to remember the word "cucumber" was stage fright during one of her first television appearances, and that she is bilingual and her accent comes and goes depending on stress and other factors;[8] she described herself as "multi" and culturally "fluid".[72]

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Hillary Lynn Hayward-Thomas[3] was born in Boston, Massachusetts, on January 6, 1984,[4] to Kathryn Hayward and David Thomas Jr.[5][6][7] She is of English, French-Canadian, German, Irish, and Slovak descent.[5]
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #663 on: March 20, 2025, 02:11:15 PM »
Sometimes 2 crazy people find one another...
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #664 on: March 26, 2025, 06:47:26 PM »
James Reeves interviews professional armorer to discuss the shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdwuXKeVe2Q

If the interview is accurate, there was a culture of negligence on that set.
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Re: Alec Baldwin Firearm Accident
« Reply #665 on: March 26, 2025, 10:46:09 PM »
James Reeves interviews professional armorer to discuss the shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdwuXKeVe2Q

If the interview is accurate, there was a culture of negligence on that set.

At 2:20, the "expert" is already incorrect. Yes, the original camera crew had quit. Fact: the production company had already brought in a replacement camera crew. Halyna Hutchins was behind the camera because it was not even a rehearsal of the scene, it was a blocking of the scene scene -- She was standing behind the camera in order to view the scene from the camera's eye, in order to decide how the scene should be blocked out (staged) for the best visual effect.

This is not insider information. This was made very clear in ALL the reports.

At 5:28 he says, "They're filming the scene." No, they weren't filming the scene. They were blocking the scene.

At 11:21 James Reeves says "She had intermingled live rounds with dummy rounds and handed that to Alex Baldwin." Wrong. Earlier in the video, the expert said that David Halls handed the gun to Baldwin, and EVERY report at the time said that. The expert did not correct Reeves.
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