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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7575 on: April 30, 2024, 08:35:52 AM »
heh...

We had an employee running around in one of those at my company...

She not only had the mask, she also had a face shield, gloves, and a tyvek suit.

Every day.

For months on end.

Still occasionally seen the full on panic maskers in the grocery and other places.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7576 on: April 30, 2024, 09:23:31 AM »
I wonder how many lawyers are ginning up the class action lawsuit against Razer at this very moment.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7578 on: April 30, 2024, 11:19:02 AM »
A Tyvek suit?  When I had to wear one of those, I would come out five pounds lighter just from all the sweat.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7579 on: May 01, 2024, 02:45:30 AM »
I call 'em covid dancers... As you get closer to them, they move away... Real fun in a store with 6' aisle width...
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Quote from: Angel Eyes on August 09, 2018, 01:56:15 AM
You are one lousy risk manager.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7583 on: May 17, 2024, 10:02:35 AM »
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/four-years-on-covid-19-remains-a-worse-killer-than-the-flu-study-finds/

An interesting study done using VA records.

I always like more info, but am annoyed that the media (Seattle times in this case) still wants to lead with big scary numbers insteard of useful information.

Seattle times:
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Patients hospitalized for COVID had a 35% higher risk of dying within 30 days than influenza patients, Ziyad Al-Aly and colleagues at the clinical epidemiology center of the Veterans Affairs St Louis Health Care System in Missouri found.


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The COVID-19 and seasonal influenza groups were balanced after propensity score weighting (Table 1). Patients hospitalized for COVID-19 had a higher risk of death compared with those hospitalized for seasonal influenza (adjusted death rate, 5.70% vs 4.24% at 30 days; adjusted HR, 1.35 [95% CI, 1.10-1.66]).

While the Times is factually correct (4.24 x 1.35= 5.72)  they purposefully framed it to seem like COVID was a significant increase in risk.

For comparison the CDC is reporting 2022-2023 Flu Burden report is reporting 31,000,000 cases of the flue and 21,000 deaths, so all ages mortality of like 0.06%.  Of course, we all know that COVID and Flu hit older people worse, so your risk decisions should take that into account. (15,000 of those deaths were in people over 65)  If you are in a high risk for a bad time with respiratory illnesses because of either age, or health, than yes, COVID is still a real concern, and is one of the endemic illnesses you should protect yourself from.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7584 on: May 17, 2024, 10:14:17 AM »
^^^Also of note is that the VA patient population is skewed towards older males who may have co-morbidities.  I wanted to link the JAMA research letter behind this article, but it is paywalled.  https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2818660#:~:text=Compared%20with%20a%20study%20using,in%202023%2D2024%20for%20influenza.
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Quote from: Angel Eyes on August 09, 2018, 01:56:15 AM
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« Reply #7585 on: May 17, 2024, 10:37:19 AM »
^^^

Indeed.  I hadn't though of that.  Also, that's 30-day death of folks that were hospitalized for Flu/COVID.  I expect that weeds out all the "not that bad" cases.  I think by the time you are hospitalized for a respiratory illness, things have gone kinda south.

What's the 30-day survival for folks hospitalized for Pneumonia, I wonder?

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« Reply #7586 on: May 17, 2024, 12:20:14 PM »
^^^

Indeed.  I hadn't though of that.  Also, that's 30-day death of folks that were hospitalized for Flu/COVID.  I expect that weeds out all the "not that bad" cases.  I think by the time you are hospitalized for a respiratory illness, things have gone kinda south.

What's the 30-day survival for folks hospitalized for Pneumonia, I wonder?
That is what I was thinking about.  Does looking only at hospitalized patients really tell you that much? 
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7587 on: May 17, 2024, 01:11:40 PM »
That is what I was thinking about.  Does looking only at hospitalized patients really tell you that much?
I find I can often learn quite a bit by how dramatic the claims are from overly specific studies.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7588 on: May 17, 2024, 03:36:46 PM »
When they don't make all the data easily available... Sigh.
 
I'm also wondering if maybe the treatment/prescriptions if someone tests positive for the 'vid are different for flu positive?
 
Or... is it creative accounting again? "He's got a broken hip, and advanced alzheimer's along with a brain tumor, but he is gonna die with covid, so..."
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7590 on: June 16, 2024, 07:38:52 AM »
Just had a "stupid statistical thought."
 
"Hey, the guys upstairs sent an email - we have to count 'em again."
 
"We counted them yesterday. And when are they going to get off their asses and come get them?"
 
"No clue - count 'em, and send the number up to the PR people."
 
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #7591 on: June 16, 2024, 11:03:24 PM »
Is it too tinfoily to think another engineered virus will hit for election? I don't like being Alex Jones but I wonder. Some wild stuff going around local to me.
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« Reply #7592 on: June 17, 2024, 08:44:00 AM »
Is it too tinfoily to think another engineered virus will hit for election? I don't like being Alex Jones but I wonder. Some wild stuff going around local to me.

In today's (6/17/2024) New York Times:

https://archive.ph/20240617122155/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/17/health/bird-flu-pandemic-humans.html
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« Reply #7593 on: June 17, 2024, 03:35:08 PM »
In today's (6/17/2024) New York Times:

https://archive.ph/20240617122155/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/17/health/bird-flu-pandemic-humans.html

That's not "tinfoil".  That's the handwriting on the wall.  You know it's coming, just not "when".
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